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  • #16

    I never did like the fuel lines....scared me!


    Sad video...best of luck putting it back together.

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    • #17
      The initial flame was caused by an engine failure. A rod let go...(the telltale blue smoke out the exhaust before the flame)...this broke a hole in the oilpan and caused a small oil fire.

      However, the small oil fire immediately melted the fuel lines, under some 30# pressure...fire went spraying everywhere causing significant damage.

      Did GM break the engine? No...I did. However, GM did find it necessary to run pressurized fuel thru a thin plastic line. I mean, why put a flammable liquid in a flammable container?

      I wonder how may other saps have been burned alive when a minor mishap became a major boner? It could happen to any of you!

      Luckily, everyone was fine...the car looks like burnt toast. I guess there's always next season. sj

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      • #18
        Well, for one, in GM's defense, the "thin plastic line" is plastic...yes, but it is nylon. Coming from Honeywell, the maker of approx. 50% of the nylon used in this country, I know nylon is a superior product. Kevlar, Spectra, ballistic nylon, engine manifolds, carpet, lines used for boat rigging, etc. are all grades of nylon. It is superior to metal in resistance to heat transfer, is extremely resistant to solvent (gasoline) degradation, is very flexible, has a large operating temperature range, and is widely used in this situation. Yes, it will melt, but as you stated, you had an engine fire first which caused the lines to melt. Metal lines are not desirable under hood in street cars because of it's ability to conduct heat to the fluid it's transferring, corrosion which can cause cracks, and poor resistance to heating/cooling cycles typically experienced in modern engine compartments. Even braded lines contain rubber (synthetic is better i.e viton, butyl, neoprene, nitrile) on the inside. The steel braiding increases the liners resistance to bursting and abrasion.

        So, again, nylon gas lines really are superior and well designed for street applications. Sometimes, though, s__t happens...
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        • #19
          Nylon, huh?... kinda like my carpet at home, huh?

          Man, that makes me feel a whole lot better!

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          • #20
            There are 2 problems here

            1) people loose/break the plastic clips
            that holds the fuel lines to the throttle
            cover.

            2) the air pump black hose blows off or
            comes loose - and then the engine
            heat causes a nice melt through on
            the fuel lines.

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