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    Got some new suspension goodies, one of them being a Random Technology Adjustable Torque Arm. Just a little bit confused on measuring the pinion angle. I bought a mechanical protractor from Home Depot, but not sure where to place it to get correct readings. Anyone done this before?
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    1995 Firebird Formula
    (A4 3.23)Ram Air w/ K&N, TransGo Shift Kit w/3 washers ,SLP~Shorty headers, LoudMouth, Air Foil, LineLocks. Catco Cat. Hypertech 160. TB Bypass. MSD~8.5mm. Walbro 255lph. FT MAF ends. LT4KM. BMR~Adj LCA's, Rear sway, Panhard rod. HAL QA1 rear shocks. Random Tech adj TQ arm. Nitto NT555R's. Covered in Zaino. 13.466@103.85 N/A. [1.948 60' 13.410 @ 102.66 11/20/05]

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    First put it on the driveshaft. Measure the angle. Then put it on the "flat" on the housing, under the pinion shaft. Measure the angle. The difference between the two angles should be -1 to -3deg (depending how much power you are putting down). To make sure you are calculating the "difference" correctly, the end result should be a "V" with the u-joint at the low point.
    Fred

    381ci all-forged stroker - 10.8:1 - CNC LT4 heads/intake - CC solid roller - MoTeC engine management - 8 LS1 coils - 58mm TB - 78# injectors - 300-shot dry nitrous - TH400 - Gear Vendor O/D - Strange 12-bolt - 4.11's - AS&M headers - duals - Corbeau seat - AutoMeter gauges - roll bar - Spohn suspension - QA1 shocks - a few other odds 'n ends. 800HP/800lb-ft at the flywheel, on a 300-shot. 11.5 @ 117MPH straight motor

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    • #3
      hmmmm... gonna get the Formula up on ramps and jack stands for the rear. I never really paid too much attention to the driveshaft/rear, so I am going to look for the flat spot.
      1995 Firebird Formula
      (A4 3.23)Ram Air w/ K&N, TransGo Shift Kit w/3 washers ,SLP~Shorty headers, LoudMouth, Air Foil, LineLocks. Catco Cat. Hypertech 160. TB Bypass. MSD~8.5mm. Walbro 255lph. FT MAF ends. LT4KM. BMR~Adj LCA's, Rear sway, Panhard rod. HAL QA1 rear shocks. Random Tech adj TQ arm. Nitto NT555R's. Covered in Zaino. 13.466@103.85 N/A. [1.948 60' 13.410 @ 102.66 11/20/05]

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      • #4
        If you use jack stands on the rear, put them under the axle. The suspension needs to be loaded equally. Actually, you should use the ramps on the rear. If you put the front on ramps and try to jack up the rear, it can roll. Magnetic angle finders are easier to use than protractors. And you want about 2 deg less angle (about 1 deg or so) on the street than for racing so you aren't wearing your u-joint all the time (unless you are street racing). The theory is that under power, the rear end will try to rotate up, and at that point you don't want any angle. On the street, when you are just cruising around, you don't want much angle either. So just keep in mind how you are going to be using the car. I used to set mine at the track, then chang it back after i was done racing. as you can see from my sig, I never got enough traction to really take advantage of the adjustment - my tires actually work better on the street, but I don't race there. I need slicks pretty bad.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Kevin - Blown 95 TA
          I need slicks pretty bad.
          So you have the 12 bolt already, the slicks are a minor investment after that is done. What times are you hoping for on slicks?
          96 WS6 Formula: Ram Air, 383 Stroker, Ported LT4 Heads and Manifold, 1.6 Crane Rollers, 58MM T.B., AS&M Headers, Borla Exhaust, Meziere Elec. H2O Pump, Canton Deep Sump Oil Pan, 100 HP OF TNT N2O!! , T56 Conversion w/ Pro 5.0 shifter, SPEC Stage 3 Clutch, Hotchkiss Subframe Conn., Lakewood Adj. Panhard Bar, Spohn Adj. LCA's, BMR Adj. T.A., Custom 12 bolt w/ 3:73's, Moser Axles, Eaton Posi, Moser Girdle
          11.6 @ 123mph (1.6 60' - getting there )

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          • #6
            NT0LT4bird -I was thinking 11.4 at least or maybe a little better. Hard to say, but my mph is pretty strong. Not sure if slicks would help the mph or hurt it a little bit. ET would definitely be better because I usually spin all the way thru 1st, even with a soft launch. I have handicapped myself with the big brakes & run the 17X275's up front and can't put skinnies up there, and I do not have an all out drag suspension, either. My car is a real compromise, but that keeps it very streetable. I probably won't buy the slicks, cause I don't have a cage anyway.

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            • #7
              Sounds about right kevin. Our MPH are pretty close and I am hoping for mid - high 11's after my rearend goes in.

              At what point do you have to go with a cage?
              96 WS6 Formula: Ram Air, 383 Stroker, Ported LT4 Heads and Manifold, 1.6 Crane Rollers, 58MM T.B., AS&M Headers, Borla Exhaust, Meziere Elec. H2O Pump, Canton Deep Sump Oil Pan, 100 HP OF TNT N2O!! , T56 Conversion w/ Pro 5.0 shifter, SPEC Stage 3 Clutch, Hotchkiss Subframe Conn., Lakewood Adj. Panhard Bar, Spohn Adj. LCA's, BMR Adj. T.A., Custom 12 bolt w/ 3:73's, Moser Axles, Eaton Posi, Moser Girdle
              11.6 @ 123mph (1.6 60' - getting there )

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              • #8
                <12.00 for NHRA and <11.5 IHRA. Verts are <13.0 (I believe) for NHRA and I am unsure about verts in the IHRA.

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                • #9
                  You need a 5-point roll bar, not a cage for NHRA:

                  Coupes/T-tops under 12.00
                  Convertibles under 14.00

                  You need a certified full cage (10-12 point) for all cars under 10.00-seconds, or over 135mph. Also need a competition driver's license.

                  Not sure about IHRA.
                  Fred

                  381ci all-forged stroker - 10.8:1 - CNC LT4 heads/intake - CC solid roller - MoTeC engine management - 8 LS1 coils - 58mm TB - 78# injectors - 300-shot dry nitrous - TH400 - Gear Vendor O/D - Strange 12-bolt - 4.11's - AS&M headers - duals - Corbeau seat - AutoMeter gauges - roll bar - Spohn suspension - QA1 shocks - a few other odds 'n ends. 800HP/800lb-ft at the flywheel, on a 300-shot. 11.5 @ 117MPH straight motor

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                  • #10
                    http://www.milandragway.com/test/rules.htm

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