dont wanna abuse my car..

[Mark B]

Oh Yeah... Dont mess with my cavalier either...Unless you want to blemish your racing record...

My 2.2L 4-Cyliner Auto will toast your 5.7L LS1

hahahaha

[70formula400]

Originally posted by Mark B
Oh Yeah... Dont mess with my cavalier either...Unless you want to blemish your racing record...

My 2.2L 4-Cyliner Auto will toast your 5.7L LS1

hahahaha

Damn...2.2L 4-Cyl. Automatic? Those are some SERIOUS numbers you got there

[JeffM]

Just to add - If you don't want to pay for a driving course, go to a BIG empty smooth parking lot, and test the handling limits of your car. Quick hard turns at 40-60mph, both on the throttle, and not on the throttle.. Just pretty much autox your car without the cones. You don't want the first time you lose it to be on a residential street with cars on each side. Try to lose it in the parking lot. Get sideways, just test the handling. You will then know what you can and can't do on the street.

[KnightFire]

Originally posted by JeffM
Just to add - If you don't want to pay for a driving course, go to a BIG empty smooth parking lot, and test the handling limits of your car. Quick hard turns at 40-60mph, both on the throttle, and not on the throttle.. Just pretty much autox your car without the cones. You don't want the first time you lose it to be on a residential street with cars on each side. Try to lose it in the parking lot. Get sideways, just test the handling. You will then know what you can and can't do on the street.

This is exactly how my Dad tought me to drive on snow/ice when I was 16! The trick is to find a parking light with no light poles (kinda hard in this day and age) and one that the cops don't frequently go by.


KnightFire

[Jeff_in_Atl]

I had driver training in high school. At the end of the quarter, they set up a spin out pad. They set up a coarse with cones. It was straight with a bend at the end. The set up a sprinkler at the end. They used a 1978 Dodge Aspen with a 318 (5.3L for the youngens) and dual brakes. They would tell you to start at the beginning by flooring it. Then why you turned the wheels, the instructor would hit the brakes making it slide. You job was to recover from it. I was the first one to pass my drivers test so I got to do it first. The first time I got to about 40 and I recovered fine. The second time he locked the brakes. We just spun to a stop. He looked at me and went "oops, my fault". The second time I had it floored. We were doing about 70 when he hit the brakes. The car went sideways for a long way before it started back around. I got an A. Man was that fun.

JeffM Has a superb idea. I took an old girlfriend out and did this. I made her drive the parking lot backwards too. Do it when it is raining pretty hard the first time. It's a lot easier on the tires and the speeds will be a lot lower. Then do it when it is dry. Get used to the rear end breaking loose when you go around a turn. It needs to be second nature. OK what movie is this from "If you think, you're dead."

Boy did this thread get hijacked.

[Mark B]

TOP GUN - Probably in my Top 3 Favorites!!!!

[Jeff_in_Atl]

Originally posted by Mark B
TOP GUN - Probably in my Top 3 Favorites!!!!

I hate it when they use American planes gets used for foreign ones. It used to be hard to get the foreign ones.

A6s for Japanese Zeros in Tora Tora Tora
F5-T38s for Mig 28s which I don't think Russia ever made.

[PhantomZ28]

ive had my lisence for about 4 years. started off with an 84 v-8 camaro. a beater wasnt taken car of b4 i got it. but when i got my 97 i was scared to put the pedal to the floor to get on the freeway. but after 6 months i got a feel for the 97 camaro and teh power it makes, i was able to relax more.

yes i race very rarely. in my frineds words "dude you got a v-8 and ou drive like a wus!" well this wus wil have a reliable car plus i'll be safe.

but when i race who what a rush!! latest race was against a s/c saleen. he won by 2 feet. but after he got 2 feet on my that was it. he couldnt pull any more on me ^.^

but street racing is a gamble. here in cali. if your cought racing you get yoru car taken awa and you CAN NOT buy it back from teh impound.

[TrAnS Am 98]

thanks a lot for the advice guys, today i just drove normaly and enjoyed myself, i guess i just went nuts when i got my license cause ive had the car since november.
last night and so far today i havent raced or broken the speed limit at all so i guess im learning to control myself, its just so tempting with the car i have
dont get me wrong i do respect what my car can do and i know i cant beat everyone out there nomatter what i do to my car, and yea jay i know ill be 9-1 if i race u grrrr
anyway thanks a lot for the advice and i dont wanna crash my car into a tree or hurt anyone when im driving i prob wouldnt be able to live with myself so ill try real hard to drive more conservatively and realize that something bad CAN happen

[TrAnS Am 98]

oh i know i only raced cars that i can beat but trust me if you came to this town youd own everyone as well its all riceboxes, no one has anything else but exhaust and intake and stickers and spoilers so basicaly theyre all my you know what

[Fast Mother]

Originally posted by Jeff 95 Z28
Hey "TrAnS Am 98" no offense but you need to respect a performance car a little more than you do. I'm not saying this to flame you but to save your life. I know when people are young they think they are invincible but let me tell you they are not.

When I was in high school there was a guy with a 1980 WS6 TA jut like Smokey and the Bandit. He pushed it a little too hard and didn't make the turn on Buford Damn road on the south end of Lake Lanier. He was clipping pine trees off at 100 foot. The passenger went out the back window. You may have heard about it because it caused a law suit against GM because the seat belt let go. A bunch of people painted a cross in his parking space at school. Both were DRT. Dead Right There.

I knew this other kid who got a 1986 Trans Am and about a month after he got it he wrapped it around a tree. All he was doing was turning left. He turned, punched it and the posi made him loose it.

I know this guy who bought a 72 Nova with a built 350 in it. He wrapped it around a tree and almost killed his passenger. The passenger now has a permanent limp. He walked away unscratched.

I know you think that you are better than these guys but they thought the same thing. If you are really smart, you'll go out and get a hybrid car and save the TA until you have at least 5 years of experience. You keep going the way you are going and you will end up DRT too. You have a long life to live ahead of you but if you don't change your ways, it's not going to be very long. I don't mean this as a flame but you need to learn self control before you get behind the wheel of a car. Especially a performance car. Georgia is thinking about raising the driving age because too many kids here are getting killed at 16 and 17 because they are really not mature enough to be driving. Unfortunately it isn't all and the kids who are will suffer but the ones that are not are a danger to everyone else.

Here is an idea for you though. See if there are any driving schools you can take at the race tracks. You are in Long Island, go up to Watkins Glen and take a 3 day driving coarse. It will get you some high performance driving skills. I would like to take it at Road Atlanta but it is like $1500 and that would buy a lot of neat parts.

I could not have said it better myself....

Let my throw my $.02 cents in....

I have had my license since I was fifteen years old (hardship) with a year and a half's experience I thought I could handle myself on the road. Sure I did some questionable stuff like peeling around corners and such, nothing threatening, and definately no 60 MPH in a 40.....

Last October, 2003 I was involved in a car accident that totaled my car. I was driving with 2 other friends in the vehicle. I was making a left turn and was T-boned in the middle of an innersection. The impact from the guys truck hit on the rear right door, where my friend was sitting. We did a 180 degree spin in the middle of the innersection. You should have heard her scream. A simple mistake could have robbed the life from somebody who deserved it the least, and I don't know where my life would have gone from there. All of it could have been avoided, but "could of's" are not a part of reality. I made a simple mistake by not paying attention.

I don't know how you "define" racing, but whener I "race" it's from a dead stop and I never go past about 50 MPH in a 40. It's just not worth the innocent lives you put in harms way.

You're young and foolish, nobody expects you to change overnight. I hate to see people to learn the hard way, because within a fraction on a second, your life can be forever changed, or lost, on such a whim. It WILL be when you least expect it.

Here where I live, a few weeks ago this 16 year old kid was trying to speed his 14 years old brother to school one morning. He got up to 80 MPH in his old BMW on a residential street and took a slight curve to hard and lost control. he flipped the car and took out electrical boxes and snapped a large tree in half. The younger brother was killed. Very disturbing driving in that same lane a day after such an event takes place, let me tell you.

The bottom line is: Slow down and drive safe. Don't push any harder than you can emotionally accept the consequences if you or somebody else were to slip up.

I'm not beating on you specifically or anything man, but it's sad to see a family with enough stability to be able to throw cars like a new Trans Am, or porsche, or something of that nature without having their child cover the cost. What kind of a lesson is that to have things simply "given" to you at such a young age? THAT is when respect is lost for the automobile and child.

[FiremansTA]

Be very careful out there TA98. I've seen firsthand many times what happens when young adults don't respect their cars, the law, or anyone else on the road. The wrecks speak for themselves, about 2 weeks ago we lost a kid to street racing, he was only 16 yrs old.....

[70formula400]

PHANTOM Z28

Where in California are you? I'm in Southern Cali myself...about 35 miles north of Los Angeles.

[tclelland]

Here is an idea......Most local dragstrips have "grudge nights" where you can run your T/A against all takers. This is a cheep and safe way to see what your car can do. I learned very quickly to have respect for the power my T/A puts down. The street is no place for racing. Maple Grove Raceway is having a "grudge night" on May 7th, a group of High School kids and I are going to meet up to see what kind of numbers we can turn. Keep it safe.

[Fast Mother]

Originally posted by tclelland
Here is an idea......Most local dragstrips have "grudge nights" where you can run your T/A against all takers. This is a cheep and safe way to see what your car can do. I learned very quickly to have respect for the power my T/A puts down. The street is no place for racing. Maple Grove Raceway is having a "grudge night" on May 7th, a group of High School kids and I are going to meet up to see what kind of numbers we can turn. Keep it safe.

Racing on the streets is a very bad thing IMO, however, a slight "show off" every now and again is a different story.