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  • #16
    Well, its good and its bad. Before I explain, let me give some background on the bird.

    I bought the car about 3 years ago with alot of the engine work done to it. The guy I bought it from was very unclear as to what was done specifically, because he bought it from a dealer who repossesed it from the original owner who did the engine work. Now, since I bought the car, I did the tranny, rearend, suspension, nitrous etc, but the engine has been a bit of a mystery other than what I could see (obviously an LT4).

    Well, its no longer a mystery.......its a 383 Stroker! The computer was programmed by Ed Wright and never seemed right to me. Probably becasue it was programmed as a 350, so im thinking when I get this back together, I will have it programmed to the correct specs and hopefully pick up some serious power.

    Now, the bad news. The thrust surface on the crank is wiped out, and I cant replace it with a reman LT1, as I need a stroker crank. According to the machinist, the crank is specially balanced as a stroker and would be quite costly to duplicate. He did indicate that he could save it as long as the thrust surface is not grooved more than .030 - .040. I am anxiously a his call to let me know. If I need a new crank, it will be off the road for a while as I am looking at about 500 - 600 bucks. With summer coming fast, its not a good time for me financially (as a teacher). So, im praying that its savable!


    Now, questions:

    How much power do you guys think this thing should make as a stroked LT4 with ported heads and the other goodies (assuming I get the programming close).

    Since its a stroker, its doubtfull that the hotcam was used. How can I find out what cam is in this thing???
    96 WS6 Formula: Ram Air, 383 Stroker, Ported LT4 Heads and Manifold, 1.6 Crane Rollers, 58MM T.B., AS&M Headers, Borla Exhaust, Meziere Elec. H2O Pump, Canton Deep Sump Oil Pan, 100 HP OF TNT N2O!! , T56 Conversion w/ Pro 5.0 shifter, SPEC Stage 3 Clutch, Hotchkiss Subframe Conn., Lakewood Adj. Panhard Bar, Spohn Adj. LCA's, BMR Adj. T.A., Custom 12 bolt w/ 3:73's, Moser Axles, Eaton Posi, Moser Girdle
    11.6 @ 123mph (1.6 60' - getting there )

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    • #17
      Originally posted by N20LT4Bird
      How can I find out what cam is in this thing???
      Can you call the original owner? When I bought my car, I called the guy and had a nice conversation with him... He was happy to help me.

      I've been called twice by people that have f-body I once owned as well.
      Tracy
      2002 C5 M6 Convertible
      1994 Z28 M6 Convertible
      Current Mods:
      SLP Ultra-Z functional ramair, SS Spoiler, STB, SFCs, Headers, Clutch, Bilstein Shocks, and TB Airfoil. 17x9 SS rims with Goodyear tires, 160F T-Stat, MSD Blaster Coil, Taylor wires, Hurst billet shifter, Borla catback with QTP e-cutout, Tuned PCM, 1LE Swaybars, 1LE driveshaft, ES bushings, White gauges, C5 front brakes, !CAGS, Bose/Soundstream audio, CST leather interior, synthetic fluids

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      • #18
        this may sound stupid...but cant u just measure the cam and see what kind of #s it yeilds then go from there??

        like if u needed one made or to match the numbers to another cam?

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        • #19
          I dont know who the origianl owner is.

          Measuring the cam is easier said than done. I wouldnt know how to go about it.......

          Heres the carnage....
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          96 WS6 Formula: Ram Air, 383 Stroker, Ported LT4 Heads and Manifold, 1.6 Crane Rollers, 58MM T.B., AS&M Headers, Borla Exhaust, Meziere Elec. H2O Pump, Canton Deep Sump Oil Pan, 100 HP OF TNT N2O!! , T56 Conversion w/ Pro 5.0 shifter, SPEC Stage 3 Clutch, Hotchkiss Subframe Conn., Lakewood Adj. Panhard Bar, Spohn Adj. LCA's, BMR Adj. T.A., Custom 12 bolt w/ 3:73's, Moser Axles, Eaton Posi, Moser Girdle
          11.6 @ 123mph (1.6 60' - getting there )

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          • #20
            Originally posted by N20LT4Bird
            I dont know who the origianl owner is.

            Measuring the cam is easier said than done. I wouldnt know how to go about it.......

            Heres the carnage....
            That isn't the birds motor on that stand, right? I was expecting it to be in the car, with the oil pan off. The clutch housing in that photo looks broken, too.
            Tracy
            2002 C5 M6 Convertible
            1994 Z28 M6 Convertible
            Current Mods:
            SLP Ultra-Z functional ramair, SS Spoiler, STB, SFCs, Headers, Clutch, Bilstein Shocks, and TB Airfoil. 17x9 SS rims with Goodyear tires, 160F T-Stat, MSD Blaster Coil, Taylor wires, Hurst billet shifter, Borla catback with QTP e-cutout, Tuned PCM, 1LE Swaybars, 1LE driveshaft, ES bushings, White gauges, C5 front brakes, !CAGS, Bose/Soundstream audio, CST leather interior, synthetic fluids

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            • #21
              oh......I decided to pull it I needed it off the lift for today, so I yanked it and put the subframe back up.

              The bellhousing is fine.......must be the picture.
              96 WS6 Formula: Ram Air, 383 Stroker, Ported LT4 Heads and Manifold, 1.6 Crane Rollers, 58MM T.B., AS&M Headers, Borla Exhaust, Meziere Elec. H2O Pump, Canton Deep Sump Oil Pan, 100 HP OF TNT N2O!! , T56 Conversion w/ Pro 5.0 shifter, SPEC Stage 3 Clutch, Hotchkiss Subframe Conn., Lakewood Adj. Panhard Bar, Spohn Adj. LCA's, BMR Adj. T.A., Custom 12 bolt w/ 3:73's, Moser Axles, Eaton Posi, Moser Girdle
              11.6 @ 123mph (1.6 60' - getting there )

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              • #22
                I would think there would be a way of tracking down the owner if you really wanted too. Find out what dealership it was originally bought/repo'd from and see if you can convince them to give you the original owner's name/number. Explain your situation and they might. All you really need is the name, you can always find the number on your own. Or maybe DMV records, or perhaps you can find some paperwork with the original owners name..... just some possibilities.
                Dave M
                Life, liberty, and the pursuit of all who threaten it!


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                • #23
                  you can

                  Publicdata.com will get you the name and the last known address form the vin no.
                  NBM '02 Z, SLP Lid, Corsa Cat-Back
                  (SOLD 07/03/2004)

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by N20LT4Bird
                    ........Now, questions:

                    How much power do you guys think this thing should make as a stroked LT4 with ported heads and the other goodies (assuming I get the programming close).

                    Since its a stroker, its doubtfull that the hotcam was used. How can I find out what cam is in this thing???
                    That will significantly depend on the extent of your head porting and how big you cam is.

                    Most raceshops have the ability to take cam measurements on a machine. For instance the "Cam Pro plus" shown here is a common one used. They are extremely accurate.

                    http://www.thunderracing.com/images/...e/trshop12.jpg

                    It shouldn't cost more than $50 to obtain your exact cam specs. And that would be very valuable info.

                    With your 100 shot, 383 inches, and a moderatly (high 220 to low 230 duration @ .050") sized cam, you should be able to easily put 530+ to the tire.

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                    • #25
                      Ive been talking to Ion with MadZ28.com and he is going to get me going with programming in 2 steps. He is doing an initial program and then another after I have run the car on a dyno and I send him the results. He said he can dial it in pretty good this way.

                      530 at the wheels would be nice!
                      96 WS6 Formula: Ram Air, 383 Stroker, Ported LT4 Heads and Manifold, 1.6 Crane Rollers, 58MM T.B., AS&M Headers, Borla Exhaust, Meziere Elec. H2O Pump, Canton Deep Sump Oil Pan, 100 HP OF TNT N2O!! , T56 Conversion w/ Pro 5.0 shifter, SPEC Stage 3 Clutch, Hotchkiss Subframe Conn., Lakewood Adj. Panhard Bar, Spohn Adj. LCA's, BMR Adj. T.A., Custom 12 bolt w/ 3:73's, Moser Axles, Eaton Posi, Moser Girdle
                      11.6 @ 123mph (1.6 60' - getting there )

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