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  • NFB: Missouri votes by a 71% margin to ban same sex marriages.

    Hopefully this will set the tone for the other states expected to vote on this amendment in the near future.

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,127979,00.html

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    Who cares if they get married. They should be able to do what they want, just leave the rest of us alone and don't get any children involved into this (adoption).
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Black97
      Who cares if they get married. They should be able to do what they want, just leave the rest of us alone and don't get any children involved into this (adoption).
      If we could all do what we want, that may become a bit of an issue. Thats why we have laws. Changing the the definition of marriage will effect everyone else that is married. What if I wanted 5 wives? Should I be able to do that? What if I wanted to marry my pet rock? Marriage, by definition, is a man becoming one with a WOman. Dont get me wrong, I dont hate gays. They should be allowed the same rights as everyone else. And they are certianly allowed to enter into marriage as it intended to be (a man and woman). That is everyones right....... I DO hate what they do, and especially hate the fact that they are trying to impose it on America. If gays want to live together, thats their problem. They shouldnt expect special rights and priveliges for their perversion.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Black97
        Who cares if they get married. They should be able to do what they want, just leave the rest of us alone and don't get any children involved into this (adoption).
        I completely agree on the children comment. I know a gay couple that lives together and have young kids from previous strait relationships. The kids are hazed at school for having gay dads and they are all screwed up as a result of it all.
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        • #5
          Parents

          I know I would rather see kids with homosexual parent than a child living in a house where the parents are drug users, alchoholics, or abusers.

          Gay parents can raise a child with decent morals just as a straight couple could.

          Kids will harrass other kids for anything, not just cause their parents are gay. Kids are cruel and have no sympathy. That is something the parents need to teach better.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Black97
            Who cares if they get married. They should be able to do what they want, just leave the rest of us alone and don't get any children involved into this (adoption).
            Yeah...they should be able to do what they want...we expect the same for us. BUT, laws keeps us from going all crazy with our freedom ideas. Personally I don't like the gay marriage idea...nothing against them, I have gay friends...their some of the nicest, open and friendly people...but it's wrong.

            Just another example how our country is being bent and twisted over some people's idea of equality.

            Oh, and if they do adopt, I feel for the poor kid...

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            • #7
              the "gay" thing is a bunch of "gray" areas.

              like.......what if a woman said "i should be able to use the mens room".......should women be able to use the mens rooms when they want, no matter what? what about the reverse? (shut up guys......i know the answer )

              seriously.........

              the gay marriage thing is a very serious subject and could have a tremendous affect of things.

              im not for it.

              but....im from the old school too.......so many of you are much younger and todays society has changed quite a bit.......

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              • #8
                Originally posted by wolfman

                seriously.........the gay marriage thing is a very serious subject and could have a tremendous affect of things........

                Yup.... they try marijuana and before you know it, they're on crack....

                Seriously, though.....

                Ken is right... If two males or females is now to be OK, then the next could be three... or, underage ... or ......

                A child NEEDS a male & a female parent role model to grow up as a completely developed adult. There ain't no way that two males or two females can provide what is fully needed.

                Asside from all the other issues.......

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by TraceZ
                  I completely agree on the children comment. I know a gay couple that lives together and have young kids from previous strait relationships. The kids are hazed at school for having gay dads and they are all screwed up as a result of it all.
                  I have a gay family member who is raising a daughter after artifical insemination.......it really saddens me to see it. The little girl is too young to realize what is going on now, but withing the next several years, I cannot imagine what that child will go through.

                  Its FACT that the BEST environment for raising a child is with a mother AND father present. Now, I realize that there are many children who do not know one parent or another and grow up in a single parent environment, but this situation is generally not premeditated. Something happens along the line that leads to an absence of the mother or father.........When a gay couple adopts or artificially inseminates, it is purposefully raising a child in a less- than optimal, even detrimental environment. Why would anyone want to subject a child to a life without a solid set of parents - an input from both a mother and father....the way God intended it to be. It really boils down to selfishness, which is the driving force of the gay agenda..... "If I want a child, I should have one no matter what".......I want, I should have, etc... It really is sad that this is even a debate.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by aschroeger
                    I know I would rather see kids with homosexual parent than a child living in a house where the parents are drug users, alchoholics, or abusers.

                    Any disfunction is bad. We shouldn't willingly be subjecting kids to it by allowing gay couples to adopt.

                    I would even go so far as to say that my father's death is disfunction. I shouldn't have had to go through college with my mother as my only living parent.

                    Some things we can control. Others we can't. This is something we can and NEED TO control.

                    We even control adoption based on a couple's financial ability to provide for a child. If we would deny a loving, caring couple a chance at adoption simply because they don't have a qualifying debt-to-income ratio, but allow this... what does that say about us?
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Black97
                      Who cares if they get married. They should be able to do what they want, just leave the rest of us alone and don't get any children involved into this (adoption).

                      I pretty much agree with this.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Jay 02 TA ws6
                        I pretty much agree with this.
                        So, they can be married with conditions???......They are not going to be happy with that....
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by N20LT4Bird
                          So, they can be married with conditions???......They are not going to be happy with that....
                          Exactly. They want full equal rights. They want Dad-Dad families and Mom-Mom families. They will not be happy with restrictions. Either you are for promoting this type of family environment or you are agianst it.

                          I dont think it is a good idea, personally. I know of 7 gay friends and coworkers right now. All of them are on some type of mediaction for depression or anxiety. None can go unmedicated without freaking out. These folks have a hard enough time going day to day managing their own lives. Raising normal happy children in that gay environment would be challenging even if you were totally mentally secure. It is impossible if you cant even manage your own life. I've yet to meet a gay person that doesnt need perscribed "happy" drugs to remain pleasant and sane. I think it is just an unstable personality type? Whatever it is, I just cannot see kids growing up happy and thriving in that environment.
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                          • #14
                            I absolutely agree that gays shouldn't be allowed to marry, or have children. Look, they choose to have this "alternative lifestyle." The alternative lifestyle in and of it'self is outside the normal parameters of moral life. They choose to be with a "mate" who can never, by any natural means provide them with children. That is their choice. The "I want my cake and to eat it to" attitude of expecting to be allowed to adopt to get around their sick lifestyle just really annoys me.
                            And, like was said above, for them to be able to marry completely changes the definition of marriage for the rest of us. If they want to become "life partners" or some other nonsense, then so be it. But don't undermine or insult the union that I have with my wife, the vows that I took before God and my family, or the beliefs that my wife and I live by in our marriage by allowing gays to marry.
                            Just my $0.02. I am living in Canada right now, and I know that my Canadian wife was ready to up and move with me back to Texas the second she heard that the canadian government had made same sex marriages legal. However...she says she will be hesitant to move down there is Kerry wins. Smart girl, but I still hope to move back down there by this time next year. Go Bush!!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by TODD 2000 V6 CAMARO
                              I absolutely agree that gays shouldn't be allowed to marry, or have children. Look, they choose to have this "alternative lifestyle." The alternative lifestyle in and of it'self is outside the normal parameters of moral life. They choose to be with a "mate" who can never, by any natural means provide them with children. That is their choice. The "I want my cake and to eat it to" attitude of expecting to be allowed to adopt to get around their sick lifestyle just really annoys me.
                              And, like was said above, for them to be able to marry completely changes the definition of marriage for the rest of us. If they want to become "life partners" or some other nonsense, then so be it. But don't undermine or insult the union that I have with my wife, the vows that I took before God and my family, or the beliefs that my wife and I live by in our marriage by allowing gays to marry.
                              Just my $0.02. I am living in Canada right now, and I know that my Canadian wife was ready to up and move with me back to Texas the second she heard that the canadian government had made same sex marriages legal. However...she says she will be hesitant to move down there is Kerry wins. Smart girl, but I still hope to move back down there by this time next year. Go Bush!!
                              I live in Canada, but in Alberta where we have voted and banned same sex mairrage. I do not agree with the mairrage but I dont care if they are gay, makes no difference to me. I dont like the fact that they are pushing their ideals on the populatiion as a whole. I also dont see how they think they can raise a child that they cant make themselves, If they were ment to have kids they would be able to! I dont get my views from religon but I get them from nature, you dont see gay animals with babies.

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