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  • #16
    Very well put MarkD79TA I was going to respond something will that.
    Thats what the problem with kids these days. All they care about is them selves,Their stocks, their pay raises etc. Our economy is getting and will get better.
    It takes courage and sacrafice to fight the terrorist in the middle east now but I'm sure things will pay off in the long run. So we've run up the national defecate. We need to spend more on the military to defend ourselsve and the world. Its money well spent to spread freedom and democacy to other regions of the world.


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    • #17
      Originally posted by ryan34
      Well i was leaning toward kerry untill i read all these posts. I am now voting for bush.
      I rest my case....for now


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      • #18
        What difference does that make? Your the one bashing on me. Its the only face to seem to fit the bill. The rolleyes seems insulting and i don't like the smilie or the stick out tongue.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Jay 02 TA ws6
          ...."Sure things may cost more, but there will be compensation come tax time..." Huh?

          I sit here with a 4 year degree in economics, and I am trying to tell you some economic truths to Kerry's proposals. I will even admit to you that they SOUND wonderful. But that's surface level.

          You wouldn't call a plumber because your sink is backed up, and then tell him how to fix it, would you? Then maybe you should listen to someone with a DEGREE in this field. I am not going to tell you how to design a house -- that's YOUR expertise.

          You want to know what happens when a company is taxed for outsourcing? In the short-term more jobs are saved, but companies must charge more for their goods. In turn, sales drop. Sales drop... profits drop... employees are cut. Company loses money. More employees are cut. In the long term, companies will be less likely to set up shop in the USA because they know that if the demands on their business change, they will be penalized for adapting to them. Basically, what started as a "barrier to exit" has become a "barrier to entry". After that, no one wants to do business over here anymore. So then what do they do? They set up shop overseas. Now our docks are flooded with imported goods, and short-sighted people begin ing, "stop the imports! Save America's jobs! Tax imports!". So they do... and so the vicious cycle continues.

          Face it, we're in a global economy. Time to step up to the plate....

          You know I hear what you are saying but I really dont think the democrates ar wanting to point the US in a downward spirl. Im sure then have people with the proper education to back it up. I mean in the History of the US I refuse to belive that a president want anything less than the greatest nation in the world. Im just tired of hearing everone thats for Bush saying that Kerry doesnt now what he is doing. You just don't get to were he is if you don't know what your doing.

          and Bro I wasn't "Bashing You." You see thats the problem with America well all take offense to anything we can. I am sorry
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          • #20
            Originally posted by ONLNTM5
            I rest my case....for now
            What do you mean?
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            • #21
              Originally posted by ryan34
              What do you mean?
              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
              YOU SEE!?!?!?!?
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Squat13
                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                YOU SEE!?!?!?!?
                What did he mean then?
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                • #23
                  He rests his case, but what was his case do begin with?
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by ryan34
                    He rests his case, but what was his case do begin with?
                    That you changed your vote bro
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Squat13
                      You know I hear what you are saying but I really dont think the democrates ar wanting to point the US in a downward spirl. Im sure then have people with the proper education to back it up. I mean in the History of the US I refuse to belive that a president want anything less than the greatest nation in the world. Im just tired of hearing everone thats for Bush saying that Kerry doesnt now what he is doing. You just don't get to were he is if you don't know what your doing.

                      and Bro I wasn't "Bashing You." You see thats the problem with America well all take offense to anything we can. I am sorry
                      I never thought you were bashing me. I am trying to have a thought-provoking discussion with you...

                      I hear where you are coming from with this post above... here's my challenge for you: Find me an economist who supports Kerry's economic plans over Bush's.

                      You may find an economist who supports Kerry in the election due to his foreign policies, plans for Iraq, etc... but you are going to be hard-pressed to find an economist who supports Kerry on economic ideas alone...........
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by ryan34
                        What do you mean?
                        I mean Thank God you are voting for Bush!-this is why I have been posting a lot of pro-Bush stuff lately, for which I have gotten some criticism for, I might add.

                        I say "I rest my case" because, at least one person has read all of the pro-Bush posts and decided to vote for Bush instead of Kerry. Get it? I wasn't bashing you- if I was, you would know it-

                        Man, everybody chill out


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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Jay 02 TA ws6
                          I never thought you were bashing me. I am trying to have a thought-provoking discussion with you...

                          I hear where you are coming from with this post above... here's my challenge for you: Find me an economist who supports Kerry's economic plans over Bush's.

                          You may find an economist who supports Kerry in the election due to his foreign policies, plans for Iraq, etc... but you are going to be hard-pressed to find an economist who supports Kerry on economic ideas alone...........
                          Well Iraq is part of the equation, there is nothing that can be done about that.

                          and I was talking to ryan34 about the bashing thing.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by ONLNTM5
                            I mean Thank God you are voting for Bush!-this is why I have been posting a lot of pro-Bush stuff lately, for which I have gotten some criticism for, I might add.

                            I say "I rest my case" because, at least one person has read all of the pro-Bush posts and decided to vote for Bush instead of Kerry. Get it? I wasn't bashing you- if I was, you would know it-

                            Man, everybody chill out
                            I know you weren't bashing me, I asked that because it couldve went either way. I thought you were talking about me changing to bush and being in favor, but it sounded like it couldve meant that you were against me changing. Then i don't understand why squat said YOU SEE?!?!?!, whats that supposed to mean? Just because i didn't understand the post?
                            I mean he didn't say anything else in this post, so it couldve really been about almost anything.
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Squat13
                              Well Iraq is part of the equation, there is nothing that can be done about that.

                              and I was talking to ryan34 about the bashing thing.
                              Well it sounded awfully insulting. But I'm willing to forgive
                              It sounded to me that you were talking to Jay as well. I think it may just be the tension of the race.
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                              • #30
                                lets move on. this is just getting uglier and I know if i was an "oustside" i would not want to stay on this forum reading this stuff.

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