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    I currently have a M6 in my 95z, I put 510rwhp and 520ftlbs to the wheels. How much power will I lose going to the th400?
    1995 z-28, six speed, centerforce d.f clutch, moser4:10,afr heads, zz-409 cam,full tubes w/ c.o.,nx direct port kit-150shot,hoosier qtp's
    dyno
    NA -356 rwhp, 360ft/lbs
    N20 -510rwhp, 521ft/lbs

  • #2
    any recommendations on where to buy a setup like this? transbrake, converter, flexplate, tranny, etc?
    1995 z-28, six speed, centerforce d.f clutch, moser4:10,afr heads, zz-409 cam,full tubes w/ c.o.,nx direct port kit-150shot,hoosier qtp's
    dyno
    NA -356 rwhp, 360ft/lbs
    N20 -510rwhp, 521ft/lbs

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Juicedz
      any recommendations on where to buy a setup like this? transbrake, converter, flexplate, tranny, etc?
      http://www.transmissioncenter.net/
      2002 Electron Blue Vette, 1SC, FE3/Z51, G92 3.15 gears, 308.9 RWHP 321.7 RWTQ (before any mods), SLP headers, Z06 exhaust, MSD Ignition Wires, AC Delco Iridium Spark Plugs, 160 t-stat, lots of ECM tuning

      1995 Z28, many mods, SOLD

      A proud member of the "F-Body Dirty Dozen"

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      • #4
        The gains of a high stall and a brake will total negat the power loses. You will understand when your yanking the front after dumping the break. Also it will be much more consistant in trap times.
        1967 VW Bug 2.3L Ford SVO Inline 4 w/ Turbo, Sand-Drag VW Trans Axle, Race this Import.
        2001 Dodge Ram 1500 Totally Stock

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        • #5
          true, but what about the power loss? 5-10% over the m6 or what?
          1995 z-28, six speed, centerforce d.f clutch, moser4:10,afr heads, zz-409 cam,full tubes w/ c.o.,nx direct port kit-150shot,hoosier qtp's
          dyno
          NA -356 rwhp, 360ft/lbs
          N20 -510rwhp, 521ft/lbs

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          • #6
            Actual numbers, calculated by running the engine on an engine dyno, with full intake and exhaust, then installing the engine in the car and measuring rwHP on a chassis dyno.

            Engine dyno:

            NA: 486HP
            1-stage N2O: 633HP
            2-stage N2O: 762HP

            With a steel flywheel Street Twin, stock T56, 3" chrome moly driveshaft, Strange 12-bolt with 3.73 gears, 17x9.5" wheels, with 275/40-17 tires:

            NA: 425rwHP (12.6% loss)
            1-stage N2O: 555rwHP (12.3% loss)
            2-stage N2O: 670rwHP (12.1% loss)

            Switch to a TH400, high stall, high slip, non-locking convertor (5,000rpm flash at 800 lb-ft), same type driveshaft (different length), same rear and gears, 15x10 Weld Pro-Stars w/ 28x11.5-15 QTP (which clouds the issue a little):

            NA: 390 rwHP (19.8% loss)
            1-stage N2O: 505rwHP (20.2% loss)
            2-stage N2O: 600rwHP (21.3% loss)

            Interesting thing is, for the reasons pointed out above, the car did not see any appreciable loss of 1/4-mile performance..... the "area under the curve" is not reduced. The peak HP may be lowered, but you get a huge increase in torque off the line, and the high stall convertor holds the torque high. Car still runs approx 117MPH on motor, 128MPH on a 125-shot at 3,760# race weight. No numbers for the current 300-shot.
            Fred

            381ci all-forged stroker - 10.8:1 - CNC LT4 heads/intake - CC solid roller - MoTeC engine management - 8 LS1 coils - 58mm TB - 78# injectors - 300-shot dry nitrous - TH400 - Gear Vendor O/D - Strange 12-bolt - 4.11's - AS&M headers - duals - Corbeau seat - AutoMeter gauges - roll bar - Spohn suspension - QA1 shocks - a few other odds 'n ends. 800HP/800lb-ft at the flywheel, on a 300-shot. 11.5 @ 117MPH straight motor

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