nfb: just picked up a new glock

[Dave M]

Actually that isn't true. There is no beam of light from a laser that you can see to trace back to it's source unless the air is smoky or foggy. In clear air you can only see the dot when it hits a surface.

But you can see the laser on the weapon, when it's illuminated. Same goes for flashlights, although obviously they're far easier to spot than lasers.

[Jeff_in_Atl]

But you can see the laser on the weapon, when it's illuminated. Same goes for flashlights, although obviously they're far easier to spot than lasers.

You make it sound like it is really bright. It looks like a dim red LED looking at the gun. It's just night that bright looking at it. It's plenty bright when it hits a surface. Mine is in the slide so you don't see it on the outside. My living room probably has 20 LEDs in it right now. Pick which one is the gun.

The really nice thing about the laser is your head doesn't have to be right behind the gun. You can hold the gun out to the side and still shoot accurately. If someone is shooting at the laser, they might hit your hand but that is a lot better than your head.

I just took this picture. I had to get a tripod so I could slow it down enough without it blurring.

[wolfdogs]

he really nice thing about the laser is your head doesn't have to be right behind the gun. You can hold the gun out to the side and still shoot accurately. If someone is shooting at the laser, they might hit your hand but that is a lot better than your head.


this is the key...you hit the nail on the head. the lazer on our .45 is mainly for mary.. that gun nevers leaves the house... and she's practiced shooting by standing behind cover and extending her arm, using the lazer for pin pointing the target. you get a nice kick off the weapon...thats the only draw back.

[Kevin - Blown 95 TA]

The only thing I will use a laser for is training. It is good for working on your wobble zone and showing you where your trigger control is. I respect your opinion, though. If I had a bunch of lasers on my chest, I agree that it would tend to make me throw my hands up. As far as flashlights go, I think its more sound to use the light remotely and aim the pistol in a normal manner. On a SMG when you're storming a room, that's a different story. But there's something to be said for not sticking your head out, too! Do you know that the Germans had a SMG that could shoot around a corner back in WW2? Anyway, I shoot a HK in .40, but also have an identical 9mm for cheap practice, and a .380 Mustang for ifn I have to go into town. The big Eagles are accurate, but most guys don't shoot them well except maybe slowfire - I considered a .357 at one time and they feel huge in my hand, and it takes me both hands to work the gun. I also shot one in .50 AE, and it was just uncontrollable.

I'm glad to hear you guys are shooters - any competitors out there? Any of you military guys distinguished? My big thing was highpower - I shot highpower for a number of years - I got my badge in '94 - #1126. I used a Krieger barreled M14 across the course and went out with 46 points after 2 years & 3 trips to Camp Perry. I never shot at 1000 yards there though. For pistol, I was just average in the combat matches, better than average in bowling pin matches (lots of fun), and I downright sucked at bullseye (boring). This spring I might sign up to shoot silhouettes at 300 yards with a .22 rifle. I'll see if I can remember how to dope the wind. Sounds like fun, though! I'm also considering IDPA, but don't know if I'll have the time for it. Anybody try that yet?

[wolfdogs]

The only thing I will use a laser for is training. It is good for working on your wobble zone and showing you where your trigger control is. I respect your opinion, though. If I had a bunch of lasers on my chest, I agree that it would tend to make me throw my hands up. As far as flashlights go, I think its more sound to use the light remotely and aim the pistol in a normal manner. On a SMG when you're storming a room, that's a different story. But there's something to be said for not sticking your head out, too! Do you know that the Germans had a SMG that could shoot around a corner back in WW2? Anyway, I shoot a HK in .40, but also have an identical 9mm for cheap practice, and a .380 Mustang for ifn I have to go into town. The big Eagles are accurate, but most guys don't shoot them well except maybe slowfire - I considered a .357 at one time and they feel huge in my hand, and it takes me both hands to work the gun. I also shot one in .50 AE, and it was just uncontrollable.

I'm glad to hear you guys are shooters - any competitors out there? Any of you military guys distinguished? My big thing was highpower - I shot highpower for a number of years - I got my badge in '94 - #1126. I used a Krieger barreled M14 across the course and went out with 46 points after 2 years & 3 trips to Camp Perry. I never shot at 1000 yards there though. For pistol, I was just average in the combat matches, better than average in bowling pin matches (lots of fun), and I downright sucked at bullseye (boring). This spring I might sign up to shoot silhouettes at 300 yards with a .22 rifle. I'll see if I can remember how to dope the wind. Sounds like fun, though! I'm also considering IDPA, but don't know if I'll have the time for it. Anybody try that yet?

I was Presidental Security in the AF at Andrews on AF 1...before I got out.
we will compare notes sometime. ;o) golfball hanging from fishing line at 200yds................. in the wind...........

[ws6drbob]

Some of the laser set-ups have a button that attaches to the grip right were your thumb is placed so that you can give the handle a lil squeeze to illuminate your laser instead of having it onn all the time.

[wood]

The only thing I will use a laser for is training. It is good for working on your wobble zone and showing you where your trigger control is. I respect your opinion, though. If I had a bunch of lasers on my chest, I agree that it would tend to make me throw my hands up. As far as flashlights go, I think its more sound to use the light remotely and aim the pistol in a normal manner. On a SMG when you're storming a room, that's a different story. But there's something to be said for not sticking your head out, too! Do you know that the Germans had a SMG that could shoot around a corner back in WW2? Anyway, I shoot a HK in .40, but also have an identical 9mm for cheap practice, and a .380 Mustang for ifn I have to go into town. The big Eagles are accurate, but most guys don't shoot them well except maybe slowfire - I considered a .357 at one time and they feel huge in my hand, and it takes me both hands to work the gun. I also shot one in .50 AE, and it was just uncontrollable.

I'm glad to hear you guys are shooters - any competitors out there? Any of you military guys distinguished? My big thing was highpower - I shot highpower for a number of years - I got my badge in '94 - #1126. I used a Krieger barreled M14 across the course and went out with 46 points after 2 years & 3 trips to Camp Perry. I never shot at 1000 yards there though. For pistol, I was just average in the combat matches, better than average in bowling pin matches (lots of fun), and I downright sucked at bullseye (boring). This spring I might sign up to shoot silhouettes at 300 yards with a .22 rifle. I'll see if I can remember how to dope the wind. Sounds like fun, though! I'm also considering IDPA, but don't know if I'll have the time for it. Anybody try that yet?

I have the airforce marksman ribbon (37/40).. but anyone who is or has been in the airforce knows it's a joke.

I'de like however to think that I am a decent shot with a wide arsenal of weapons, not competition decent.. but don't break into my house decent.

[94 formula]

What is the drop of a .22 at 300 yards? When I was younger I was into the 4H shooting league and shot my 30-06 out to 500 yards and thats a few feet drop. I can't even imagine how high you'd have to hold for a .22 at 300.

[Jeff_in_Atl]

Some of the laser set-ups have a button that attaches to the grip right were your thumb is placed so that you can give the handle a lil squeeze to illuminate your laser instead of having it onn all the time.

Mine has a button inside the lever that releases the slide. You can push it from either side of the gun. So it requires no drilling. It takes about 2 minutes to install.

http://www.lasermax.com/
The model for the 1911 is adjustable too.