Bin Laden talking about truce

[Dave M]

obviously bin laden needs to go. But would you guys support a truce with terrorist groups if bin laden gave him self up for it (unlikely) or was killed first? That is, if bin laden wasn't in the picture, could a truce be possible? After all, this is a war. Wars are ended with truces. The war on terrorism is about keeping americans safe from terrorists. If we could prevent attacks on this country simply by agreeing not to attack them.... should we? Could we trust them not to attack once we let our guard down after a truce?

[Christopherrr]

You guys still watch Fox news . .

um yeah...

it's the only source that isn't so left wing biased...

I watch other news soruces, but for only comparision...

Fox News...the only real source of news. They can do without O'reilly though. He stinks.

[Joe 1320]

obviously bin laden needs to go. But would you guys support a truce with terrorist groups if bin laden gave him self up for it (unlikely) or was killed first? That is, if bin laden wasn't in the picture, could a truce be possible? After all, this is a war. Wars are ended with truces. The war on terrorism is about keeping americans safe from terrorists. If we could prevent attacks on this country simply by agreeing not to attack them.... should we? Could we trust them not to attack once we let our guard down after a truce?

The only people that we can have a truce with is going to be the mainstream followers of true Islam or some other government/religion. Once the radical extremests are wiped out, the reamining followers of Islam are peaceful people who can co-exist with a modern society of all religions. Until then, there is no coice but to continue what Bin Laden already started.

[Dave M]

fox news is just as right wing as the others are left.

[Jeff_in_Atl]

fox news is just as right wing as the others are left.

Can you provide me an example of that?

[Kevin - Blown 95 TA]

fox news is just as right wing as the others are left.

Yeah, but it is only one station providing the point of view of more than 50% of the country. Other than Fox and a few talk radio stations, the rest of the mass media is predominantly Liberal. It's simply because that's what many of the Liberal Arts students become - journalists & writers. Too bad that, by the time they graduate and become employed, they forget about journalistic integrity. Too bad they convince themselves that they should 'make' the news and not just report it truthfully and honestly. Too bad that they become caught up in their political party's agenda and try to further it by slanting the news to the left. Anyone that can't see this has either got his eyes closed or is so far on the other side of the bell curve that a worm couldn't crawl under his I.Q. while wearing a hat.

[Joe K. 99 Zeee!!]

Oh, my...I can see this thread heading downhill...

[Kevin - Blown 95 TA]

obviously bin laden needs to go. But would you guys support a truce with terrorist groups if bin laden gave him self up for it (unlikely) or was killed first? That is, if bin laden wasn't in the picture, could a truce be possible? After all, this is a war. Wars are ended with truces.

Besides truces, there's surrender and attrition.

The war on terrorism is about keeping americans safe from terrorists. If we could prevent attacks on this country simply by agreeing not to attack them.... should we? Could we trust them not to attack once we let our guard down after a truce?

Is this a serious question, Dave? I think AlQueda is too fluid. If we make a truce with them, a splinter faction will break off and form another terrorist organization and continue the Jihad. They're brainwashed to hate since really early age of 5 or 6 and not going to change their ideals of hatred just because one of their leaders has a change of heart and signs a truce. I mean, you can't just go from a point where you volunteer to carry a bomb on your back into a crowd of innocent people killing everybody within the blast radius including yourself to a peaceful 9-5 job selling barbecued goat-on-a-stick at the local bizarre, right? Now, if we are successful in assisting Democratic type governments in Iraq and Afganistan to take hold, then there will be just that much more pressure on Iran to join the free world and become better citizens. If this global strategy works, hopefully we can avoid a conflict there, and maybe that whole region of the world will become more stable. There is a plan to the madness, you know.

[Dave M]

Is this a serious question, Dave? I think AlQueda is too fluid. If we make a truce with them, a splinter faction will break off and form another terrorist organization and continue the Jihad. They're brainwashed to hate since really early age of 5 or 6 and not going to change their ideals of hatred just because one of their leaders has a change of heart and signs a truce. I mean, you can't just go from a point where you volunteer to carry a bomb on your back into a crowd of innocent people killing everybody within the blast radius including yourself to a peaceful 9-5 job selling barbecued goat-on-a-stick at the local bizarre, right? Now, if we are successful in assisting Democratic type governments in Iraq and Afganistan to take hold, then there will be just that much more pressure on Iran to join the free world and become better citizens. If this global strategy works, hopefully we can avoid a conflict there, and maybe that whole region of the world will become more stable. There is a plan to the madness, you know.

Point taken. No matter how many factions agree to a truce, there will always be some who want to continue the fight. That can be seen in Israel and their numerous cease fires with the Palestineans.

[fastTa]

Forth, I just remembered why fox news sucks....usuma bin laden....rofl....fox sucks, plain and simple.
Andrew

Explain please.

[Jeff_in_Atl]

Point taken. No matter how many factions agree to a truce, there will always be some who want to continue the fight. That can be seen in Israel and their numerous cease fires with the Palestineans.

LOL. You said what I was going to say to you. That's funny.

[Jeff_in_Atl]

Can you provide me an example of that?

I'm still looking for someone to provide an example of how Fox news is right wing.

[Red20170]

I'm still looking for someone to provide an example of how Fox news is right wing.

I personally wouldn't call fox right wing but I can see why people would get that idea. Two people come to mind.

Roger Ailes was part of first George Bush campaign for president. He went to be an CEO of Fox News.
LINK

John Ellis, One of Bush's cousins and was hired by fox to report the election results during Bush's first run for POTUS.

[Steel2686]

Sixty-five years ago, a very powerful country vowed death to America. They did a lot of damage. Killed a lot of people.

In the end, that country was nearly pulverized at great -- and terrible -- loss of life. Yet that country rose again, democratic and free because the United States seeks neither conquest nor empire nor eternal enemies, but freedom for ourselves and others.

Within days of that other country's "sudden and deliberate attack" upon us, its ally (foolishly) declared war on us. That country, too, was nearly pulverized at great -- and terrible -- loss of life. Today, it is free and democratic, because the United States seeks neither conquest nor empire nor eternal enemies, but freedom for ourselves and others.

Forty-five years ago, we faced an empire whose leader pounded his shoe on his desk at the United Nations and promised, "We will bury you."

That empire no longer exists. Unfortunately, its remnants have not yet made the transition to full freedom and democracy. Yet, we wish it well because the United States seeks neither conquest nor empire nor eternal enemies, but freedom for ourselves and others.

So maybe we are not so afraid of some berobed clown holed up in a cave, afraid to show his face, moving from one location to another to avoid justice, who threatens us with retribution for his paranoid delusions.

We've seen worse -- much worse -- than him.

He wants a truce? Here's my suggestion: Let him strap a bomb to himself just as the loathsome coward encourages others (much younger then himself) to do, and blow himself up in the middle of the next meeting of his demented followers.

Now that's what I call a truce.

Or he can wait until we do it for him.

But either way, maybe we aren't as afraid of him as he thinks.

GOD BLESS AMERICA!

I know I'm a bit late on this, but it's just a great posting by Roger.

[Jeff_in_Atl]

Lets see,
CNN is headquartered in Atlanta Georgia a definate red state.
Fox News is headquartered in New York a definate Blue state.

Some radio stations will not carry Boortz because they think he is a republican, even though he's a Liberterian, because he is based at a radio station in Atlanta because they think people in the south are dumb because they vote republican and they are liberal and know better than everyone else yet their favorite news is CNN which is based in the same town that they say the people are dumb. HUH?