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    http://www.water4gas.com/2books.htm, everone at my work is talking about doing this to there car,I think its a load of crap,I wanted to get ur guys thoughts thanks
    2000 blue mustang gt vert 5spd,18''cobra rims,light bar,stalker bodykit,lowered 2 1/2'',roush side exhaust /with x pipe ,bbk cai,power products 75mm tb and plenum Pro 5.0 3:90 gears,Custom 91 octane SCT tune

    2000 red vw jetta,86k stock

    1995 firebird formula ws6 clone,crashed,frame damage ,sold

  • #2
    and it is a load of cr@p.

    The Goldens: Reno and Rocky

    2008 C6, M6, LS3, Corsa Extreme C/B, (it flys) & 2008 Yukon loaded (Titanic), 03 Ford Focus..everydaydriver.

    Wolfdog Rescue Resources, Inc.:http://www.wrr-inc.org
    Home Page: http://www.renokeo.com
    sold: 97 Firehawk, 97 Comp T/A, 2005 GTO, 2008 Solstice GXP turbo.

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    • #3
      Thats 5 miles from me......Snake oil salesman. Water injection was popular awhile back on turbo cars. But this is BS.
      2000 Z28 SLP sub frames, J&M LCA's, KYB shocks, Waitforme tuning. Ported TB & intake 35/22 swaybars, Firehawk tires

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      • #4
        The theory is valid but the practical application...no way.

        Decomposition of water into hydrogen gas and oxygen gas by high voltage electric discharge.
        2 H2O + High Voltage Discharge => 2 H2 + O2.

        In fact we have multiple H2 generators in our laboratory. They run about $10k each, 120V AC, are about 20" X 18" X 12" and produce around 100ml/min H2 at 60 psi. Oh, and did I mention the palladium catalyst that is needed to assist the reaction.

        Problems:
        It lakes ALOT of current to break the H-O bonds.
        So much so that it is not even remotely efficient but it is safer than using compressed H2 cylinders which is why we use them.

        Plus, there's the simple math.
        1 H2O molecule weighs 18.015 amu (amu=Atomic Mass Units)
        H weighs 1.008 X 2 = 2.016 which is 11.19% of the total.
        Meaning, if your conversion is 100% efficient, you only get 11.19% return.

        And the lower BTU value of H2 versus hydrocarbons....

        Then there is the whole problem of delivering a gas into your engine to consider...


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        My DD
        2015 Lexus GS350 FSport

        My toy

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        • #5
          I didn't believe it either until a friend of mine said he was using it with great results.

          I figured I'd try it and I've about doubled my gas mileage and have had no noticeable loss in power.
          97 Chevy 'Raro Z28 M6- Ported & Polished LT1 heads,beehives,1.6/1.94 valves, 226/231 custom cam,K&N FIPK, 94-95 BBK shorty's,ORY,Magnaflow Catback,no cats,BMR LCA Relocation Brackets,Lower Control Arms,Adjustable Panhard Bar,Eibach Pro Kit,SPEC Stage 1,Walbro 255 Fuel Pump,30LB Injectors,Pro 5.0,Short stick,MSD 8.5's,NGK TR55's,LT4KM

          01 Honda CBR600 F4i-Two bro's,Corbins,SS brake lines

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          • #6
            Originally posted by raroZ28
            I didn't believe it either until a friend of mine said he was using it with great results.

            I figured I'd try it and I've about doubled my gas mileage and have had no noticeable loss in power.
            Now I'm worried.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Joe 1320
              Now I'm worried.
              Woops, forgot to say happy late april fools.

              I wonder if anybody has really bought that though.
              97 Chevy 'Raro Z28 M6- Ported & Polished LT1 heads,beehives,1.6/1.94 valves, 226/231 custom cam,K&N FIPK, 94-95 BBK shorty's,ORY,Magnaflow Catback,no cats,BMR LCA Relocation Brackets,Lower Control Arms,Adjustable Panhard Bar,Eibach Pro Kit,SPEC Stage 1,Walbro 255 Fuel Pump,30LB Injectors,Pro 5.0,Short stick,MSD 8.5's,NGK TR55's,LT4KM

              01 Honda CBR600 F4i-Two bro's,Corbins,SS brake lines

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              • #8
                Originally posted by raroZ28
                Woops, forgot to say happy late april fools.

                I wonder if anybody has really bought that though.
                yep, i bet they have...
                Greg W. in West Michigan
                1992 Formula WS6-A/R Rims, Stock L05 swap, Former Abuse Victim
                1983 Z28-Parts car- *Sold*
                1984 Z28-305 HO Auto *Sold*
                1986 Camaro-V-6 5Spd *Sold*
                1984 Camaro-V-6 Auto *Sold*
                <Motor out

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                • #9
                  thats ok, im still trying to figure out how to turn used tires into wine! I'll make a fortune!

                  Ahhh say there Mr. Joe, care to sip a vintage goodrich g force 1997?

                  The Goldens: Reno and Rocky

                  2008 C6, M6, LS3, Corsa Extreme C/B, (it flys) & 2008 Yukon loaded (Titanic), 03 Ford Focus..everydaydriver.

                  Wolfdog Rescue Resources, Inc.:http://www.wrr-inc.org
                  Home Page: http://www.renokeo.com
                  sold: 97 Firehawk, 97 Comp T/A, 2005 GTO, 2008 Solstice GXP turbo.

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                  • #10
                    "burp"

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by wolfdogs
                      thats ok, im still trying to figure out how to turn used tires into wine! I'll make a fortune!

                      Ahhh say there Mr. Joe, care to sip a vintage goodrich g force 1997?

                      I'm doing something similar with black licorice.... except i am calling them Pirelli's Fine Licorice.
                      -Ryan-


                      1997 Pontiac Firerbird Formula LT1/T56
                      2006 Pontiac G6 GTP, 3.9L V6, 6-spd

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                      • #12
                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Rb_rDkwGnU
                        97 Chevy 'Raro Z28 M6- Ported & Polished LT1 heads,beehives,1.6/1.94 valves, 226/231 custom cam,K&N FIPK, 94-95 BBK shorty's,ORY,Magnaflow Catback,no cats,BMR LCA Relocation Brackets,Lower Control Arms,Adjustable Panhard Bar,Eibach Pro Kit,SPEC Stage 1,Walbro 255 Fuel Pump,30LB Injectors,Pro 5.0,Short stick,MSD 8.5's,NGK TR55's,LT4KM

                        01 Honda CBR600 F4i-Two bro's,Corbins,SS brake lines

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by raroZ28

                          Those are actually commercially available right now. $7000

                          http://www.alternatefuels.com/h2o1.htm
                          Tracy
                          2002 C5 M6 Convertible
                          1994 Z28 M6 Convertible
                          Current Mods:
                          SLP Ultra-Z functional ramair, SS Spoiler, STB, SFCs, Headers, Clutch, Bilstein Shocks, and TB Airfoil. 17x9 SS rims with Goodyear tires, 160F T-Stat, MSD Blaster Coil, Taylor wires, Hurst billet shifter, Borla catback with QTP e-cutout, Tuned PCM, 1LE Swaybars, 1LE driveshaft, ES bushings, White gauges, C5 front brakes, !CAGS, Bose/Soundstream audio, CST leather interior, synthetic fluids

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                          • #14
                            If it really worked you'd be seeing cars with the technology already build in. I can promise all the major car makers are spending billions to make a more energy efficient car, even more so now than ever. But some gomer with a cheesy website beat them all to the "real" answer to energy independence? Right, when pigs fly.
                            Tracy, 97 Formula, pretty much stock.

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