Buick or Pontiac could be phased out....

[95TransAm]

Not only does the kid have a stock Honda Civic but it's an automatic as well. What use does he have for a shift light?

So he can feel special? So he thinks he ravin' everytime he shifts? Cause he's a moron? Cause it adds 900 horse?....i'll stop now and I bet you get the idea.

The worst is when you talk to kids who want older cars and don't know anything about cars in the first place but insist on it.

2 examples....

1) This kid I used to go to school with "I'm gonna gets me a '69 gto with a 454 and put a hemi on it" I look at him and say "You're going to put a mopar motor on top of your chevy 454 motor than never existed in any GTO ever. In '69 it was the Ram Air IV 400 cubic inch, and in '70 they got a pontiac 455" He looked so confused afterwards that it was disgusting.

2) Another kid i went to school with "I just got myself an olds cutlass with a 350 big block in it." I was going to explain the difference between a SBC and a rat motor, but realized it was a road to nowhere.

The way I look at it, is they can stick with the imports and screw those up...just please leave the respectable muscle cars alone

[TraceZ]

I learned that the throttle was your clutch, let of the gas, pull out of gear, throttle, put into gear, and go. You don't use the actual clutch; you double clutch with the throttle...shift on the down revs.

That is incorrect.

The definition I posted above is the textbook definition of double clutching.

Shifting the way you describe is clutchless shifting.

[markd79ta]

no. What you describe is clutchless shifting. "Double clutching" is as I explained above.

I don't know...the literal act of depressing the clutch twice on a single shift stroke seems to serve no purpose at all. I never heard of this before.

[TraceZ]

I don't know...the literal act of depressing the clutch twice on a single shift stroke seems to serve no purpose at all. I never heard of this before.

I know, sounds dumb, but it does save tons of wear on the clutch and transmission. It is *not* a "performance" way to shift. That is why it was so funny when they talked about it in 2F2F.

[thomas]

Ive shifted my t/a with out the clutch alot exept for 1st gear,with just everyday driving. I never every did it if I was driving it in any other way(hard driving).

[markd79ta]

I know, sounds dumb, but it does save tons of wear on the clutch and transmission. It is *not* a "performance" way to shift. That is why it was so funny when they talked about it in 2F2F.

I can see how the mistake can be made (if it is a mistake), because the truckers I know who instructed me used the clutchless shifting when referring to double clutching...one of them happens to be my brother-in-law.

[Jeff95TA]

The out of control union benefits aren't helping things either.