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  • Yeah, it looks like the fire was trying to blast it's wau thru the poor gasket. Get some that can tolerate the misalignment and get the flanges flattened.

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    • Thanks for the tips guys. The header flanges aren't too bad. When they were new, I measured the biggest gap to be just under 1/32". With the Percy's stacked aluminum, I'd assume that gap should close up well. When I checked the passenger's side, the biggest gap was 1/16" or so, but BLMs are very close to a perfect 128.

      When I'm finished with all the testing, poly mount install and new gaskets, I'll recheck my BLMs...and if the split is gone (as well as the KR), I'll be one happy f-body owner
      94 Black T/A GT, Advanced Induction 355, 3200 stall, built 4L60E, Moser 9", Baer Brakes, Shooting for 11s...

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      • Originally posted by Craig 94 TA GT
        Thanks for the tips guys. The header flanges aren't too bad. When they were new, I measured the biggest gap to be just under 1/32". With the Percy's stacked aluminum, I'd assume that gap should close up well. When I checked the passenger's side, the biggest gap was 1/16" or so, but BLMs are very close to a perfect 128.

        When I'm finished with all the testing, poly mount install and new gaskets, I'll recheck my BLMs...and if the split is gone (as well as the KR), I'll be one happy f-body owner
        Percy's makes some good stuff. I've personally never used their "dead soft" stuff, but everyone says it's good.

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        • Sweet! I'm looking forward to getting them in tomorrow.

          Maybe I'll also get the LS1 MAF sensor, which supposedly replaced the LT1 sensor. It's dirt cheap, on sale at fullthrottlespeed.com. I hope that cures the problem why my 24#ers are running beyond 90% duty cycle on my stock motor.
          94 Black T/A GT, Advanced Induction 355, 3200 stall, built 4L60E, Moser 9", Baer Brakes, Shooting for 11s...

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          • Your guys' suspicions are confirmed. I looked at the head and saw black all over that area. Can a leak this close to the head be worse than a leak at the y-pipe?
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            94 Black T/A GT, Advanced Induction 355, 3200 stall, built 4L60E, Moser 9", Baer Brakes, Shooting for 11s...

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            • Originally posted by Craig 94 TA GT
              Your guys' suspicions are confirmed. I looked at the head and saw black all over that area. Can a leak this close to the head be worse than a leak at the y-pipe?
              Well good job lol

              I would say so, since you're getting all the fresh air sucked into the header and throwing off the O2 sensor. But that's just an opine of mine lol
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              • That's what I was thinking too
                I'm wondering though, if it's that close to the exhaust valve, does that affect anything other than the O2 reading?
                94 Black T/A GT, Advanced Induction 355, 3200 stall, built 4L60E, Moser 9", Baer Brakes, Shooting for 11s...

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                • Originally posted by Craig 94 TA GT
                  That's what I was thinking too
                  I'm wondering though, if it's that close to the exhaust valve, does that affect anything other than the O2 reading?
                  It could throw off alot of things. Depending on how much eduction was actually taking place, it could have been messing with the amount of a/f being drawn into the cylinder during overlap. You could have also had some reversion and it could have been prematurely cooling the exhaust valve.

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                  • Originally posted by fastTA
                    It could throw off alot of things. Depending on how much eduction was actually taking place, it could have been messing with the amount of a/f being drawn into the cylinder during overlap. You could have also had some reversion and it could have been prematurely cooling the exhaust valve.
                    Yep. What he said.

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                    • Originally posted by Joe 1320
                      Yep. What he said.
                      I'm no expert, but I do what I can to get by!

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                      • How about a leak from cylinder to cylinder? Any ill effects? The passenger's side had one. I didn't notice anything odd with that side's BLMs though.

                        BTW, the Percy's look awesome. Uncrushed, it's as thick as 2 Felpros.
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                        94 Black T/A GT, Advanced Induction 355, 3200 stall, built 4L60E, Moser 9", Baer Brakes, Shooting for 11s...

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                        • Originally posted by Craig 94 TA GT
                          How about a leak from cylinder to cylinder? Any ill effects? The passenger's side had one. I didn't notice anything odd with that side's BLMs though.

                          BTW, the Percy's look awesome. Uncrushed, it's as thick as 2 Felpros.
                          Well, the exhaust valve would be closed on the adjacent exhaust ports the entire time except the upper part of the exhaust stroke on those respective and adjacent exhaust ports, which also coincidentally would be different from that of the leaking exhaust port. So it is highly doubtful that a leaking header gasket on one cylinder, would have a directly adverse affect on an adjacent cyinder.

                          Just brainstorming here(brain-farting actually), but I suppose if you were to have enough turbulence generated by that one leaking primary, it could create a slight interference with the normal continuance of exhaust gas velocity further down-stream. I wouldn't think this specifically would have much of an effect on the amount of oxygen that the o2 reports seeing, but it could, I suppose, have an adverse affect on performance. Brain fart over.

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                          • That piddly amount leaking thru the header gasket wouldn't do nuthin, but it's not helping either. Gaskets have made great leaps & bounds these days, and I just use the best I can get for this LT1 and these kinds of problems are a thing of the past. Use the Percys or the Earls and some kind of good fastener and quit worrying about header leaks.

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                            • Thanks guys. I think the other side of the passenger's side gasket looks a bit messy http://s94938520.onlinehome.us/pictures/pass_side2.jpg but again, if there's no 'out of whack' O2 readings, I guess it was ok.

                              I'm looking forward to putting on these:


                              I'm also in the middle of the poly motor mount install. Biggest PITA I can imagine. If only I would've done it during the header install
                              94 Black T/A GT, Advanced Induction 355, 3200 stall, built 4L60E, Moser 9", Baer Brakes, Shooting for 11s...

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                              • Now you can see why I recommend them. Make sure you install the convex (smooth) side toward the block.

                                You can modify the gaskets to allow the end two bolts to be "slip over" by notching out the bottom half of both end bolt holes. This will allow you to remove all the header bolts except one on either end, allowing the header to still stay in place, the gasket is slipped in between the header and the block.... settling right down over the bolt on each end. Then you simply install the rest of the header bolts and torque.

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