i just bought PaceSetter Exhaust Ceramic-Coated Long Tube Headers, 2000-2002 LS1 F-Body with Emissions Fittings, With TSP 3" Y-Pipe with Hi-Flow Catalytic Converters and i'm so excited but to install them look like gonna be pain in the butt if you guys have any trick please let me know. and also could you guys tell me how many gain hp do i get ?
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2001 Trans Am WS6 M6
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Spohn: SFC|Tunnel Brace|LCA|Swaybars|LCA bracket|Shock Tower Brace|Nitto NT555 Extreme Performance|Pacesetter LT|TrueDual|1-chamber Flowmaster|DLA224/224Cam|Comp Cams 918 Springs|ported oil pump|timing chain|PRC LS6 heads|LS7 lifters|Fast Intake 90mm|NW TB 90mm|Thermostat 160|NGK TR 55|RacetronicFP|429/404 hp/tq|tuned by George Haddad motorsports
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I helped my brother install coated pacesetters on his 99Z28. They are tricky but honestly not that bad. We had off the plugs coil packs and valve covers but that was also because he was doing a cam swap then as well. Be very careful when removing your old bolts from the heads that you don't break any off but being an 01 that shouldn't be such an issue. We did not need to remove the engine mounts on either side but you will need to have the car jacked up very high to be able to wiggle them in from underneath. I'd recommend setting aside a day you don't have any other plans and getting a friend to help. Also a case of beer and a box of bandaids doesn't hurt either
. The gains are different from car to car but if you look at Jays numbers with just bolt ons that shows how much LS1's benefit from being able to breathe better.
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Go with out the emissions stuff. Scrap the cats and go with O2 sims. My buddy did that to his 01Z. He went with the Hooker cat back also. Sounds awesome.
If you live in Cali, I guess you have to go with all the emissions stuff. Don't know about the laws out there.
Good luck.
John
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The law everywhere in the US is it is illegal to remove the catalytic converters. There is really no gain in it and I wish people would quit advising people to remove them.Originally posted by TundrahogGo with out the emissions stuff. Scrap the cats and go with O2 sims. My buddy did that to his 01Z. He went with the Hooker cat back also. Sounds awesome.
If you live in Cali, I guess you have to go with all the emissions stuff. Don't know about the laws out there.
Good luck.
2002 Electron Blue Vette, 1SC, FE3/Z51, G92 3.15 gears, 308.9 RWHP 321.7 RWTQ (before any mods), SLP headers, Z06 exhaust, MSD Ignition Wires, AC Delco Iridium Spark Plugs, 160 t-stat, lots of ECM tuning
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It is actually illegal to use LT's anywhere because even if you use cats you need to move them and that is illegal. In most places if you buy them with the emission hook ups and have cats you can get away with them. Also with having a 01 don't you have the LS6 intake and no EGR? If I'm right there then you'd only have an AIR pump hook up which isn't going to cost you hp and you can stay pretty much legal.Originally posted by Jeff 95 Z28
Jeff 95 Z28 I've also read people saying that removing cats doesn't give you much gain. Could you or someone else post some dyno results to back that up? I've seen inside stock cats and they look like they cause a decent amout of back pressure. I'm not trying to start an arguement here I'd just like to see some hard evidence prooving that because that would make a real good case not to make your car pollute more for no real gain.1994 Firebird Formula, M6, Fan switch, 160 thermostat, Pacesetter LT headers, Morosso CAI, TB bypass, True duals.Comment
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I'm still looking but in the mean time...
http://www.randomtechnology.com/technical.html2002 Electron Blue Vette, 1SC, FE3/Z51, G92 3.15 gears, 308.9 RWHP 321.7 RWTQ (before any mods), SLP headers, Z06 exhaust, MSD Ignition Wires, AC Delco Iridium Spark Plugs, 160 t-stat, lots of ECM tuning
1995 Z28, many mods, SOLD
A proud member of the "F-Body Dirty Dozen"Comment
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Good reading...I'm searching but haven't found a dyno chart yet to see what the loss of having a stock cat is.Originally posted by Jeff 95 Z281994 Firebird Formula, M6, Fan switch, 160 thermostat, Pacesetter LT headers, Morosso CAI, TB bypass, True duals.Comment
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Did all 01 T/A's come with the LS6 intake or only some? Would that include FireHawks and Formulas too? Any Camaro's come with the LS6?
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I think all 01 and 02 LS1's got the LS6 intake in f-bodies.Originally posted by Jeanius1994 Firebird Formula, M6, Fan switch, 160 thermostat, Pacesetter LT headers, Morosso CAI, TB bypass, True duals.Comment
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the only real benefit to removing the cat is that cats go bad, and when they do, they cost money to replace. They can hurt performance too when they start to go. That's why I eliminated mine. I considered a high flow cat to go behind my ORY, but it was cheaper to just put a straight pipe there. If emissions isn't a deal in your area, forget about it. Anyone who wants to argue that they should keep the cats, more power to ya. Don't hate on me for removing my cats.
Just my 5.7 cents.97 Chevy 'Raro Z28 M6- Ported & Polished LT1 heads,beehives,1.6/1.94 valves, 226/231 custom cam,K&N FIPK, 94-95 BBK shorty's,ORY,Magnaflow Catback,no cats,BMR LCA Relocation Brackets,Lower Control Arms,Adjustable Panhard Bar,Eibach Pro Kit,SPEC Stage 1,Walbro 255 Fuel Pump,30LB Injectors,Pro 5.0,Short stick,MSD 8.5's,NGK TR55's,LT4KM
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Just don't drive in front of me because I don't want to smell it. I'm glad everyone doesn't remove their cats.Originally posted by raroZ282002 Electron Blue Vette, 1SC, FE3/Z51, G92 3.15 gears, 308.9 RWHP 321.7 RWTQ (before any mods), SLP headers, Z06 exhaust, MSD Ignition Wires, AC Delco Iridium Spark Plugs, 160 t-stat, lots of ECM tuning
1995 Z28, many mods, SOLD
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I won't be in GA anytime soon.Originally posted by Jeff 95 Z2897 Chevy 'Raro Z28 M6- Ported & Polished LT1 heads,beehives,1.6/1.94 valves, 226/231 custom cam,K&N FIPK, 94-95 BBK shorty's,ORY,Magnaflow Catback,no cats,BMR LCA Relocation Brackets,Lower Control Arms,Adjustable Panhard Bar,Eibach Pro Kit,SPEC Stage 1,Walbro 255 Fuel Pump,30LB Injectors,Pro 5.0,Short stick,MSD 8.5's,NGK TR55's,LT4KM
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I wouldn't even think of attempting this project on your own unless you have access to a lift. You will need a full Saturday afternoon and at least 1 buddy to help.Originally posted by 1sickbirdFormer Ride: 2002 Pontiac Trans Am WS6 - 345 rwhp, 360 rwtq... stock internally.
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Originally posted by Jay 02 TA ws6
I did them on my car and also helped my brother do his on his LS1 and we had no need for a lift. We had to jack the car up very high but I think it was easier with it on the ground cause one guy could get under the car and the other could stand on a stool and help guide them up from the top.1994 Firebird Formula, M6, Fan switch, 160 thermostat, Pacesetter LT headers, Morosso CAI, TB bypass, True duals.Comment
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After using a lift, I would never want to try doing this without it...Originally posted by 94 formulaFormer Ride: 2002 Pontiac Trans Am WS6 - 345 rwhp, 360 rwtq... stock internally.
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