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  • NFB - The existance of evil

    I'm reading Hannity's book "Deliver Us From Evil" and he is writing about how some people believe in pure evil, and others do not. I'd like to get an idea of the numbers on this forum.

    You can vote only 2 ways.

    1) Yes, evil exists and we must do everything we can to extinguish it, before it attacks again. No amount of negociating will help this situation, these people are not going to compromise.

    2) No, Cultures that are targeting us are misunderstood. We must try to understand why they are so upset and negociate a way to live in peace.
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    The way you form your questions in a poll directly infuence the results. You need to frame you questions in a factual manner without key modifiers.

    Pure evil exists

    Pure Evil doesn't exist


    Bob

    PS Pure evil exists


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    • #3
      Money is the root of all evil. Some say the Devil created it.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by RangerBob
        The way you form your questions in a poll directly infuence the results. You need to frame you questions in a factual manner without key modifiers.

        Pure evil exists

        Pure Evil doesn't exist


        Bob

        PS Pure evil exists
        I agree
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        • #5
          the results so far say it all.......

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          • #6
            Interesting question....

            If pure evil does not exist, than does pure good? How would you know? There is something of a paradox here. I think that instead of questioning existance, we should work on identification a little more. Not bashin you TraceZ, just making an observation.


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            • #7
              Originally posted by DJ Taso
              Money is the root of all evil. Some say the Devil created it.
              I heard that before also...but look at it this way, without money how can churchs expand, or do missions???

              Besides, I believe the love for money creates evil...

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              • #8
                Originally posted by DJ Taso
                Money is the root of all evil. Some say the Devil created it.
                The LOVE of money is the root of all evil.

                Yes evil exists. I am a Christian so this is basic to my faith. I believe that we are all evil at our core and ALL good comes from God only. Not Allah, Buddha, etc...... So, I guess my answer to the culture difference question is NO, its not a matter of difference of opinion or culture, its a matter of good vs. evil or right vs. wrong.

                This is going to be a long thread.........
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by N20LT4Bird
                  The LOVE of money is the root of all evil.
                  see...

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                  • #10
                    Re: Interesting question....

                    Originally posted by WICKED LT1
                    If pure evil does not exist, than does pure good? How would you know? There is something of a paradox here.
                    Why not. My wife says because there has to be a balance. Who says the world has to be in balance. It much easier to identify bad than good. Just watch the news. I don't see the paradox.

                    Just for everyone's information.
                    Paradox from www.m-w.com
                    1 : a tenet contrary to received opinion
                    2 a : a statement that is seemingly contradictory or opposed to common sense and yet is perhaps true b : a self-contradictory statement that at first seems true c : an argument that apparently derives self-contradictory conclusions by valid deduction from acceptable premises
                    3 : one that possesses seemingly contradictory qualities or phases

                    Originally posted by WICKED LT1

                    I think that instead of questioning existence, we should work on identification a little more. Not bashing you TraceZ, just making an observation.
                    -Paul
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                    • #11
                      You could also say that evil is the benchmark that allows the good to be identified. It seems human nature is to compare, so there it is.......


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                      • #12
                        OJ Simpson is evil. So is Hillary. They are normal evil. The Middle East seems to breed a special, hateful evil in ways that our Christian-based & democratic culture can't even deal with...

                        There is plenty of evil to read about for anybody that is interested in history. There's just too much to list, and virtually every part of the world and every culture played it's part.

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                        • #13
                          I agree it does exist and Here is why.

                          No matter how angry or despirate you are, there is no justification for 9/11, the Holocost or the way Sadam treated the people of Iraq for years.

                          These are just a few recent events that were commited by truely evil people. I say this, because there is no rational way of thinking that could possibly justify them and make them underatandable.

                          What sort of a sane, good hearted individual honestly believes that the correct solution to any situation is to hijack commercial airliners and smash them into skyscrapers killing thousands of people? Seriously.. who would think this?

                          We went to war in Iraq. And YES, we have killed. Did we intentionally kill innocent civilians? NO. Maybe a few accidentally, but never intentionally. Have we been raping the women? no. Have we been pillaging their natural resources and wealth? no. Are we preparing to conquer and colonize their country? no.
                          Are we there to help them get back on their own feet? YES!
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Joe 1320
                            You could also say that evil is the benchmark that allows the good to be identified. It seems human nature is to compare, so there it is.......


                            I agree. How would you know evil, unless you know good and vis versa.....
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                            • #15
                              Evil exists! If it didn't, we would be able to live in some sort of Utopia where nothing bad happens, and no one is miserable because of its effects. The battle between Good and Evil is continually waged, but their will come a day when it ends. If you guessed, yes I am a Christian.

                              Just to get more discussion flowing on this subject, I pose the following question:

                              If you remove Humans from the equation, does Evil still exist? In other words, if only the animals were left, does Evil still remain?



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