I remember a few weeks ago I posted a link to a story about a woman who was saved from a car into her living room by a phone call. Many said it was God's work.... my question is, where was God on this one? http://www.local6.com/news/3752047/detail.html
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I'd hope you get to goto heaven for something like that.... :-) thats really ironic, tragic, but ironic-Rico
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God has nothing to do with any of that stuff. It's all just a game of chance. You are in the right place at the right time, or not. Have you ever taken a class in statistics? Laws of probability? There are enough people on this world, if you can think of something it will most likely happen to someone, somewhere, sometime. Nothing "devine" about it.Originally posted by Dave MI remember a few weeks ago I posted a link to a story about a woman who was saved from a car into her living room by a phone call. Many said it was God's work.... my question is, where was God on this one? http://www.local6.com/news/3752047/detail.htmlTracy
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here we go again...-Rico
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I didnt mean it like that! LOL.Originally posted by Camaro4-2here we go again...
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You certainly don't have to tell me! I'm certainly not saying God determines our destiny, I'm just repeating what others have said.Originally posted by TraceZGod has nothing to do with any of that stuff. It's all just a game of chance. You are in the right place at the right time, or not. Have you ever taken a class in statistics? Laws of probability? There are enough people on this world, if you can think of something it will most likely happen to someone, somewhere, sometime. Nothing "devine" about it.Dave M
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Funny thing is that we humans are the only animals on earth that God can not control. We have freedom of will and the freedom to sin. It was Gods gift to us all, and that is why Jesus had to die for us. We can do as we please. So, even if you believe in God, you have to believe that we determine our own destiny via our own freedom to choose.Originally posted by Dave MYou certainly don't have to tell me! I'm certainly not saying God determines our destiny, I'm just repeating what others have said.
Now... If God decides to smite you by dropping a huge crucifix on you that may be out of your hands! LOL. Or, it could just be chance, that it happenned to fall because of an engineering defect and some poor soul just happenned to be under it. Whoops!
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I would have to say God didnt do it, He gave us choise and we use it for good or bad. Its a crappy deal to have a cross fall on you but it wasnt God sitting there going "What if i push this over..."
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Here we go. Now something bad happens so god couldn't have possibly had a part in it
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Question: If God and Allah had a fight, do you think Allah would try to cut God's head off? And if he suceeded, could God attach it back on again? Could God make Allah into a Democrat? If he did, would he be a liberal? If so, would he still believe in the death penalty? Would he be an athiest? If God is omnipotent, can he make a rock so big & heavy that he can't lift it? Think God is happy with all the fancy churches pointing up at him when the Ethiopians are all dying of hunger, aids, parasites, and a mysterious flesh-eating virus? Think he's happy with the chicken factories where his creatures are plucked & gutted assemblyline style and put in a styrofoam package for overweight people to barbecue.
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Originally posted by Kevin - Blown 95 TAQuestion: ...Think God is happy with all the fancy churches pointing up at him when the Ethiopians are all dying of hunger, aids, parasites, and a mysterious flesh-eating virus?
I'd love to know this stuff. Really.
The fancy churches general putter a lot of money into missions and helping others out. Overseas its wayyy different than whats going on here, people are gettings saved by the hundreds and thousands, christianity is growing greatly, people are getting healed, signs of wonders are happening, and God is blessing these people in suffering.
Do you think a troubled teens father is happy with that child having sex, doing drugs, hanging around the wrong people? Can he stop him? Sometimes but not all ways...free willOriginally posted by Kevin - Blown 95 TAThink he's happy with the chicken factories where his creatures are plucked & gutted assemblyline style and put in a styrofoam package for overweight people to barbecue.
Has your father not been happy with something you've been doing against what hes tought you? Did you still do it?
bingoOriginally posted by TraceZFunny thing is that we humans are the only animals on earth that God can not control. We have freedom of will and the freedom to sin. It was Gods gift to us all, and that is why Jesus had to die for us. We can do as we please. So, even if you believe in God, you have to believe that we determine our own destiny via our own freedom to choose.-Rico
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Couldn't have said it better myself. God hates sin...hates it...so I'm sure he hates alot of what goes on in this world. But he LOVES us, which is the very reason he gave us free will. None of us are infallible, which is why we need forgiveness...hence the crucifiction of Jesus. Is that woman's death an act of God? Who is to say? Could be chance, could have been her time. Only God knows.Originally posted by Camaro4-2The fancy churches general putter a lot of money into missions and helping others out. Overseas its wayyy different than whats going on here, people are gettings saved by the hundreds and thousands, christianity is growing greatly, people are getting healed, signs of wonders are happening, and God is blessing these people in suffering.
Do you think a troubled teens father is happy with that child having sex, doing drugs, hanging around the wrong people? Can he stop him? Sometimes but not all ways...free will
Has your father not been happy with something you've been doing against what hes tought you? Did you still do it?
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And what would Jesus say if he was alive today and saw the mountain of gold and riches that the pope lives on. It would all be given away to help the needy.Originally posted by TODD 2000 V6 CAMAROCouldn't have said it better myself. God hates sin...hates it...so I'm sure he hates alot of what goes on in this world. But he LOVES us, which is the very reason he gave us free will. None of us are infallible, which is why we need forgiveness...hence the crucifiction of Jesus. Is that woman's death an act of God? Who is to say? Could be chance, could have been her time. Only God knows.
If you believe in God, you have to believe in the devil, and only the devil could greedily sit on that much money and power while watching people die globally of exposure, disease and starvation. There is so much they could do to make the world a better place, but choose not to.Tracy
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True, but they are also trying to convert the natives to their own faith.Originally posted by Camaro4-2The fancy churches general putter a lot of money into missions and helping others out.
I lived over there in Korea & Japan, been to China, Phillipines, Mexico, etc. and most of them are poor as dirt. By 35 they look 80. They like American cigarettes, especially Marlboros.Originally posted by Camaro4-2Overseas its wayyy different than whats going on here,
Whatever you say...but I think that's an incredible cop out.Originally posted by Camaro4-2God is blessing these people in suffering.
He died early. God's will, I guess.Originally posted by Camaro4-2Has your father not been happy with something you've been doing against what hes tought you? Did you still do it?
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