Fram Air Hog.... NOOOOOOOOO

[The Old Man]

Guys I decided to get rid of the paper filter in my Z. Went with the fram. Lost atleast 15 to 25 Hp. The motor was a dog. Wouldn't even chirp the tires shifting to second. (auto tranny) Went back to the paper and an smoking the tires again!!

[96z28]

Wow! That really sucks, I bet you were p!$$ed. I hope when I get my slp cold air that I will gain performance and not lose it.









careful with the langauge

[The Old Man]

YUP!!!! I was HOT!!!! Gonna take it back tomorrow and get my money back.

[SS_CarGuy]

Hmmmmmmmm.......I have had the Air Hog on mine for quite awhile. I haven't had the car dynoed so I cant say anything about HP loss or gain. I can't really feel any difference compared to the paper filter but then again I thought minor changes like this couldn't be detected thru the "Butt Dyno" anyway.

[Injuneer]

15 - 25HP loss????? Sounds like you forgot to take the Air Hog out of the box before you installed it.

[Fastbird93]

15 - 25HP loss????? Sounds like you forgot to take the Air Hog out of the box before you installed it.

Good one!

[The Old Man]

Yup I said 15 to 25 hp. The motor was sad. Put the paper back in and it was back to normal. Was like the motor had a govenor on it!!

[wolfdogs]

Yup I said 15 to 25 hp. The motor was sad. Put the paper back in and it was back to normal. Was like the motor had a govenor on it!!

never heard of anything that drastic...thats a lot of hp lost man.......... no offense..but impossible if all you did was change the filter, unless, like fred said... it was still wrapped.......

[The Old Man]

Have been fooling with cars for 40 years..Hence the name old man!! The wrapper was off... I have never seen anything like it before..

[Joe 1320]

I would be interested in reading the sensors with a scanner during this episode. Perhaps the computer didn't have any opportunity to relearn a new set of airflow variables. A scanner would show more.

[wolfdogs]

Have been fooling with cars for 40 years..Hence the name old man!! The wrapper was off... I have never seen anything like it before..

i dont go with an 'old' in my name, but ive been fooling with cars since I was 15, drag raced, built motors...........yada yada

and im 57............


and ive never heard of anything like this.....

[Joe 1320]

On a side note....

I find it very interesting that your IP address is exactly the same as another user on this board.



The odds of two people having the same IP on the same message board are incredibly remote.

[Injuneer]

If we assume 20HP loss on a 300HP engine, that's a 6.67% loss, or the equivalent of 28"H2O loss across the filter...... seems "odd".

Maybe you over-oiled it.

[Christopherrr]

Maybe you over-oiled it.

don't it come preoiled from the factory?

[wolfdogs]

don't it come preoiled from the factory?

most of them do... maybe thats what fred's politely driving at........"opps..i shouldnt of oiled it... and that extra oil can get in on the maf wires too..and play havoc.