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  • #46
    There is a great, old quote, allow me to mis-quote it here:
    "All that is required for evil to win if for good men to remain silent"

    Remember the 'silenty majority'? That was a term from back in Nixon's day about all the people who didn't march, and protest, and make a big scene about their 'rights' or their own agenda- just went about their day-to-day business- I would count myself in that group, and we are dying off-

    I hate to sound like such an old fossil, but it seems nowdays that people are more concerned with what people think, how things appear to others- what is more important, your MySpace page or the integrity and honor with which you conduct your life? I am concerned that most younger people would find it 'quaint' and out-dated that I would even consider such things as honor- hey, it's a get-it-while-you-can world- just ask the execs at Enron or AIG or any other scandal laden group. Even our law-officers, people who have given their lives in service to upholding the law are frequently shown to be lying, or distorting truth to serve their own needs.

    I am not saying there haven't been wrongs, or people, and whole segements of society vicitimized. But because that may have happened, 50 or 100 years ago, doesn't make it right to have a backlash against people who weren't even participants in the original events- I never owned slaves, or got rich from their work- why should I be expected to pay repartations? Yet many black activists think this should happen- or affirmative action- because of someone's race, or skin color, they should be given preference for college entrance or a job? Didn't you just say discrimination is wrong? or is it only discrimination against 'whitey' that is tolerated?

    As others have said, American society is in the toilet- whether or not the public cares enough to do anything about it, or even recognize the problem, awaits to be seen. *sigh*
    2001 Z28 A4 - 160 deg t-stat, 3.42 gears, WS6 sway bars, rear springs and shocks, UMI SFC's, Torque Arm and STB, leather Firebird seats, Borla, SLP Y-pipe and lid, ZO6 cam and springs - 332 RWHP and 346 RWTQ, not bad for 'almost stock' - work in progress
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    • #47
      Originally posted by Jeff_in_Atl
      I won't. In fact I am going to look for some mini 14 clips after work today before the dems reinstate the "assault weapons" ban. (I'm not even going to get into them classifying a mini 14 as an assault weapon.)
      Get it ready to protect yourself from the "civilian national security force" because who knows what that will be. By then, we'll probably be somehow disarmed.
      94 Black T/A GT, Advanced Induction 355, 3200 stall, built 4L60E, Moser 9", Baer Brakes, Shooting for 11s...

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Jeff_in_Atl
        I won't. In fact I am going to look for some mini 14 clips after work today before the dems reinstate the "assault weapons" ban. (I'm not even going to get into them classifying a mini 14 as an assault weapon.)
        I have plenty of weapons and training as well. My best defense is my home tucked away in the Rocky Mountains...just me, my family, and the Deer. After the kids are gone, so will be my wife and I to a more remote location. I just want to get away from all the BS.

        I guarantee there will be nuisance legislation like the Crime Bill and the "so-called" assault weapons ban along with heavy restrictions on ammunition. I would buy lots of ammunition if I were you. I doubt there will be any confiscations in my lifetime. If we go down the confiscation road, it is a line in the sand that will cause me to revolt.
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        '79 T/A: WS6, 400 4sp, 40K miles; Completely stock and original
        '87 Lifted 3/4 ton Suburban (Big Blue) plow truck
        '94 Roadmaster Wagon (The Roadmonster) 200,000 miles and still going
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        My daily drivers: '06 Jeep Liberty CRD (wife); '01 Yukon Denali XL (me); '03 Stratus Coupe (me)

        I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.
        Thomas Jefferson

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Craig 94 TA GT
          Get it ready to protect yourself from the "civilian national security force" because who knows what that will be. By then, we'll probably be somehow disarmed.
          When they pry it out of my cold dead hand.
          2002 Electron Blue Vette, 1SC, FE3/Z51, G92 3.15 gears, 308.9 RWHP 321.7 RWTQ (before any mods), SLP headers, Z06 exhaust, MSD Ignition Wires, AC Delco Iridium Spark Plugs, 160 t-stat, lots of ECM tuning

          1995 Z28, many mods, SOLD

          A proud member of the "F-Body Dirty Dozen"

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          • #50
            Originally posted by markd79ta
            I would buy lots of ammunition if I were you.
            I bought one of those big boxes of .223 shells. I just need a clip that will hold more than 5 of them.
            2002 Electron Blue Vette, 1SC, FE3/Z51, G92 3.15 gears, 308.9 RWHP 321.7 RWTQ (before any mods), SLP headers, Z06 exhaust, MSD Ignition Wires, AC Delco Iridium Spark Plugs, 160 t-stat, lots of ECM tuning

            1995 Z28, many mods, SOLD

            A proud member of the "F-Body Dirty Dozen"

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Al 96 Ram Air T/A
              Nothing's changed...right. Just look what has changed since most of my elected officials have become Democrats...

              Good grief we stink as a country.
              That's my point exactly. The only thing consistant is change. I could have pointed out another 100 things that are negative and it won't do a bit of good to argue about it.


              Originally posted by markd79ta
              I don't know home much time you spend off-roading, but an alarming number of trails are closed.

              I don't know how much time you spend looking at takings issues, but every day people are being regulated out of their land.

              I don't know what will happen with the extremist environmental agenda, but Colorado elected one of the most left wing environmental nut cases around to the US Senate. The consequences of these policies is far beyond the electorate's intellectual capacity.

              I don't know how much time you spent reading about the "Raw" Deal, but the Supreme Court was stacked to push an agenda.

              I don't know how much time you spent analyzing the LBJ "Screwed" Society, but we are dealing with an explosion of entitlement spending and an infectious mentality as a result of those policies.

              The 20th century saw two major shifts in this country during the 30s and 60s. We can very well see another shift toward government control where property rights as well as one's ability to defend himself is a thing of the past. We can also further entrench people's notion that the government needs to take care of them.

              This election is a fundamental shift in philosophy and not for the better. The sad thing is most people don't realize the shift they are making.

              And it will get worse as populations boom. The more people, the more agendas, the more money to feed said agendas, etc.

              Originally posted by Jeff_in_Atl
              That is one of the problems with this election. The main check and balance on the legislative branch is the president and now the new president has a history of being more to the left of anybody in the legislative branch. The only check now will be the 60 vote required to close deliberation to vote on a bill. The Republicans will have to filibuster everything that is ultra left and it will get used a lot.
              It's still better than a dictatorship.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Jeff_in_Atl
                I bought one of those big boxes of .223 shells. I just need a clip that will hold more than 5 of them.
                Here are some goodies for your Mini-14

                http://www.cabelas.com/hprod-1/0012777.shtml

                I don't typically talk about what I have especially the ammo. As far as anybody is concerned, I lost it all in a tragic boating accident. I will never be without; I just won't be able to practice as much as I do now. I currently pay about $160 per 1000 of .223 loading it myself.

                However, I would be pretty pissed if I forfeit my Concealed Carry by some BS federal law.
                '77 K5 rock-crawler project
                '79 T/A: WS6, 400 4sp, 40K miles; Completely stock and original
                '87 Lifted 3/4 ton Suburban (Big Blue) plow truck
                '94 Roadmaster Wagon (The Roadmonster) 200,000 miles and still going
                '97 T/A: (SLP 1LE Suspension, SB, & sfc(s), Loudmouth); 4.10s; B&M Ripper; R/A Hood; ZR1s
                My daily drivers: '06 Jeep Liberty CRD (wife); '01 Yukon Denali XL (me); '03 Stratus Coupe (me)

                I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.
                Thomas Jefferson

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by markd79ta
                  Fantastic! Have you bought from them?
                  2002 Electron Blue Vette, 1SC, FE3/Z51, G92 3.15 gears, 308.9 RWHP 321.7 RWTQ (before any mods), SLP headers, Z06 exhaust, MSD Ignition Wires, AC Delco Iridium Spark Plugs, 160 t-stat, lots of ECM tuning

                  1995 Z28, many mods, SOLD

                  A proud member of the "F-Body Dirty Dozen"

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Jeff_in_Atl
                    Fantastic! Have you bought from them?
                    No, I would though...especially black powder weapons. I sent you Cabelas' because they are HUGE outdoor and sportsman outfitters...Bass Pro Shops competitor. You might save a few bucks from smaller dealers, but you will have no problems with Cabelas.
                    '77 K5 rock-crawler project
                    '79 T/A: WS6, 400 4sp, 40K miles; Completely stock and original
                    '87 Lifted 3/4 ton Suburban (Big Blue) plow truck
                    '94 Roadmaster Wagon (The Roadmonster) 200,000 miles and still going
                    '97 T/A: (SLP 1LE Suspension, SB, & sfc(s), Loudmouth); 4.10s; B&M Ripper; R/A Hood; ZR1s
                    My daily drivers: '06 Jeep Liberty CRD (wife); '01 Yukon Denali XL (me); '03 Stratus Coupe (me)

                    I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.
                    Thomas Jefferson

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Jeff_in_Atl
                      Fantastic! Have you bought from them?

                      I have bought from them and their service is good. However, most aftermarket high cap mags for a mini 14 are junk. The feed lips are terible and some wont even fit into the mag well. The gun will usually jam more than it cycles correctly, so be careful what you buy.
                      1994 Z28 Camaro-Project carbed 4th gen
                      1995 Silverado-beater truck
                      2005 Colorado Z71-Daily driver

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by AmericanZ28
                        This is incredible!!! What a victorious win this will be for Barack Obama. This is great and memorable day in American history! Say hello to the new President of the United States of America!!!

                        I think I just puked in my mouth a little bit. Welcome to socialism, everyone! We now have a president who, by name, could be the president of any of those God forsaken middle east countries that have a president. Yeah! My president is Barrack freakin HUSSEIN Obama! WTF?? I mean, WTF???? Oh well, maybe the terrorists will go easy on us now that we have a leader who is named after their brother, cousin, etc. And thanks to all you first time, black voters who finally came out to vote for the brother man. And all the "we want free health care, we want the government to do everything fo us but wipe our a$$es for us," dems out there, THANKS! Oh well, it's the conservative's turn to bitch and moan for the next 4 years. The dems have had the last 8, I guess they need a rest. I'll just be over here planning on how I am going to spend all of those rich people's 401k's and expendable income, cause Lord know's they didn't earn it. I mean, since I wasn't diligent enough to finish school and get a degree, I deserve to have their hard earned money. Yee-freaking-haw. We do kinda suck as a country. It's going to hell in a hand basket, guys. We're giving our country away, little by little. Just ask Pedro when he get's done cutting your grass.

                        2000 Black Camaro w/3800 V6. Hotchkis STB, Whisper Lid, K&N, Flowmaster exhaust.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by TODD 2000 V6 CAMARO
                          Yeah! My president is Barrack freakin HUSSEIN Obama! WTF?? I mean, WTF????
                          It's a brave new world man. All for those who haven't earned it and nothing for those who have!

                          My poor dad. He still remembers the Civil War vet parades when he was a child, signed up for WWII and trained South Korean's on the B29 bomb sights.

                          Both my parents and my wife's parents are pretty disgusted especially in the young people who are selling out everything for which they fought and many of their friends died.

                          Barrack Hussein Obama, the illegitimate Kenyan born radical son of a Marxist w****! Who is that, Osama's new point man? Nope, the new president of the USA. What a deal!
                          '77 K5 rock-crawler project
                          '79 T/A: WS6, 400 4sp, 40K miles; Completely stock and original
                          '87 Lifted 3/4 ton Suburban (Big Blue) plow truck
                          '94 Roadmaster Wagon (The Roadmonster) 200,000 miles and still going
                          '97 T/A: (SLP 1LE Suspension, SB, & sfc(s), Loudmouth); 4.10s; B&M Ripper; R/A Hood; ZR1s
                          My daily drivers: '06 Jeep Liberty CRD (wife); '01 Yukon Denali XL (me); '03 Stratus Coupe (me)

                          I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.
                          Thomas Jefferson

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by 94Z/28
                            I have bought from them and their service is good. However, most aftermarket high cap mags for a mini 14 are junk. The feed lips are terible and some wont even fit into the mag well. The gun will usually jam more than it cycles correctly, so be careful what you buy.
                            If my private messaging worked I would take this to messaging but since it doesn't I am going to continue.

                            I noticed on that link that the clips scored a 2 out of 5 stars with many complaints about feeding. So my next question is what brand works and where can I buy them? (I went by a local gun shop and they only had 5 round clips.)

                            Even Ruger is sold out of them
                            http://ruger.com/webapp/wcs/stores/s...lastCatId=null
                            2002 Electron Blue Vette, 1SC, FE3/Z51, G92 3.15 gears, 308.9 RWHP 321.7 RWTQ (before any mods), SLP headers, Z06 exhaust, MSD Ignition Wires, AC Delco Iridium Spark Plugs, 160 t-stat, lots of ECM tuning

                            1995 Z28, many mods, SOLD

                            A proud member of the "F-Body Dirty Dozen"

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Jeff_in_Atl
                              If my private messaging worked I would take this to messaging but since it doesn't I am going to continue.

                              I noticed on that link that the clips scored a 2 out of 5 stars with many complaints about feeding. So my next question is what brand works and where can I buy them? (I went by a local gun shop and they only had 5 round clips.)
                              You can order from Ruger...

                              http://ruger.com/webapp/wcs/stores/s...lastCatId=null

                              My email is was sent if you need help finding something. I can give you my cell too. I will do some checking. I have different rifles that shoot .223 so I am not as familiar with the Mini-14.
                              '77 K5 rock-crawler project
                              '79 T/A: WS6, 400 4sp, 40K miles; Completely stock and original
                              '87 Lifted 3/4 ton Suburban (Big Blue) plow truck
                              '94 Roadmaster Wagon (The Roadmonster) 200,000 miles and still going
                              '97 T/A: (SLP 1LE Suspension, SB, & sfc(s), Loudmouth); 4.10s; B&M Ripper; R/A Hood; ZR1s
                              My daily drivers: '06 Jeep Liberty CRD (wife); '01 Yukon Denali XL (me); '03 Stratus Coupe (me)

                              I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.
                              Thomas Jefferson

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by markd79ta
                                Email sent. Thanks.
                                2002 Electron Blue Vette, 1SC, FE3/Z51, G92 3.15 gears, 308.9 RWHP 321.7 RWTQ (before any mods), SLP headers, Z06 exhaust, MSD Ignition Wires, AC Delco Iridium Spark Plugs, 160 t-stat, lots of ECM tuning

                                1995 Z28, many mods, SOLD

                                A proud member of the "F-Body Dirty Dozen"

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